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Not done for now: I'm closing this request for now because this phrase is part of a much larger issue of this article that needs a lot more work and information to tackle. The reason that the claim has no source is because it's a lead section summary of the section Alt-right#2017–present: Decline, but that section is now outdated, and is tagged as so. Nevertheless, you still need to provide a reliable source that states the movement is not in decline (or alternatively, reopen this request once editors have finished updating the section). Liu1126 (talk) 00:58, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it is particularly hard to find sources that are reliable due to how the political climate around such things are well what's the word... charged so couldn't the question really be is what sources could be appropriate to update the article to date while keeping up with Wikipedia standards? 65.190.84.189 (talk) 00:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The penultimate paragraph in the Tactics section contains the following passage:
” In 2017, a wave of threats began being made to Jewish Community Centerswhich some press sources attributed to the alt-right. Another Jewish target was the conservative commentator Ben Shapiro, who was sent messages stating that he and his children "will go to the ovens". “
This use of the passive voice, (“a wave of threats began to be made” who made the threats?) coupled with the immediately following sentence starting with “another Jewish target” strongly implies that the alt right was behind the community center bomb threats.
However, if I actually click on the hyperlinked article about the 2017 Jewish Community Center bomb threats, I discover that they had nothing to do with the alt right. Instead, they were perpetrated by an Israeli Jew and a leftwing black journalist.
I propose the following edit:
“In 2017, a wave of threats began being made to Jewish Community Centers which some press sources *wrongly* attributed to the alt-right; *these threats were actually perpetrated by an Israeli Jew and a leftwing black journalist, neither of which had any connection to the alt right*.” Hoax Tree (talk) 11:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If this edit or an edit like it cannot be made, I would suggest removing the hyperlink to the 2017 Jewish Community Center bomb threats so at least no Wikipedia reader will realize that this article and that article directly contradict each other. Hoax Tree (talk) 11:38, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Switch article to past tense.
As a movement and especially as a coalition, the alt-right is largely dead as of 2025. Websites like the Southern Poverty Law Center, quoting many of its prominent former members, have referred to it in the past tense since at least 2022. It's undeniable that many of its ideas have been incorporated into modern right-wing politics, but after the 2010s, the movement as a cohesive whole has largely splintered into various ideological offshoots, such as neo-reactionaryism, Christian Nationalism, Trumpism, etc.
Are you just going to ignore these facts? Or do you suppose it shouldn't called alt-right but just far-right...? Or are you downplaying them in order to further their interests? It is the purpose of Wikipedia to be as biased as possible, and this is not how you do that. Luka1184 (talk) 10:28, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK let's calm down. I also agree that this doesn't seem appropriate at this juncture as reliable sources as recent as 2024 exist that make reference to the alt-right in present tense. However I would suggest we WP:AGF here. Simonm223 (talk) 13:38, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Requested move 3 February 2025
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move reviewafter discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Opposed A significant movement that has had historical significance and merits its own article an explanation to our readers for future research. This is not simply a footnote in history. Moxy🍁05:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
