Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017–18 Coupe de France First Preliminary Round

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There's persuasive arguments that there's no merge-worthy content here. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:15, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NOTSTATS violation. We are not a database of sports results, especially for preliminary rounds of individual competitions. (Appears to have been previously PROD'd, deleted, and refunded all at the behest of the same person - not sure what's up with that). ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:03, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This article was created by me as a split from an article containing the results for every round of this tournament. As roughly half the teams are knocked out each round, the first round was half of the article. I believe this was done for several such articles, and it is my understanding that another editor has reconfigured the articles to be split by region rather than round, which I agree is more sensible. The series of technical actions may have been a result of a lack of awareness of these changes. As long as the regional articles exist, it is fair to delete this article and other round-based articles for this tournament. Onetwothreeip (talk) 02:05, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr Salvus: Are you able to confirm the above? Onetwothreeip (talk) 02:35, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Dr Salvus 10:11, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete @Onetwothreeip: Yes, you are right. As the first six preliminary rounds of the Coupe de France take place between teams from the same region, we decided to split the page and create one article for each regional group so that it is easier to see the path of the teams in the preliminary rounds. Dr Salvus 10:40, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 11:47, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep/Merge into something called 2017–18 Coupe de France preliminary rounds, similar to e.g. 2011–12 FA Cup qualifying rounds (which is an established article series), and add some prose/context so it's not just a dump of stats. GiantSnowman 11:50, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GiantSnowman, it arleady existists 2017-18 Coupe de France Preliminary Rounds. As I said in the comment above we decided to split the page by creating an article for each regional qualifying group since the article weighed more than 0.5 gigabytes. This article was created on 31 December 2018, which is before I split the article, but it does seem that it is preferable to split the article by regional group rather than by rounds. Dr Salvus 13:38, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment this AfD is similar to this one: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018–19 Coupe de France First Preliminary Round. Dr Salvus 13:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• GiantSnowman, you commented Delete - unnecessary level of detail for such an early preliminary round in the competition. Unsure that we need all the regional articles as well. at the previous AfD for a near-identical article five months ago. Have your feelings changed? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:03, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Premeditated Chaos: slightly; I don't think the article should remain as it, it should either be merged - or deleted in line with the last AFD. GiantSnowman 21:55, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman, I've already done so between March and April creating an article for each regional qualifier see for example 2017–18 Coupe de France Preliminary Rounds, Méditerranée. All articles contain informations about the first round Dr Salvus 21:59, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GS, why put keep/merge then, if you don't think it should remain as is? (Side note, since tone doesn't come across online very well, I want to be clear I'm not trying to hassle you, I'm just confused.) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:40, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep I don't see see a problem with the article, it's pretty specific and straight-forward. There are lots of sources, I have nothing against it and it helps paint the picture for the articles it is linked too. It's far too big to merge somewhere else. Govvy (talk) 19:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Govvy: read my comment just underneath and read what Onetwothreeip had to say. Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:02, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: the preliminary rounds have been split by region, this article is no longer useful. Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:01, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment @Paul Vaurie: Are you saying this in fact duplicated content? Govvy (talk) 17:02, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Govvy: I am not exactly sure what you mean by that, but I what I mean is that the first prelimary round of this edition of the Coupe de France is already recorded in seperate regional articles. Paul Vaurie (talk) 17:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per Dr Salvus.4meter4 (talk) 23:49, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - redundant now that we have 2017–18 Coupe de France preliminary rounds, which covers this topic better anyway Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:27, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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