Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Berea, Kansas

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:52, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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As stated in the lead, this appears to be a ghost town. There is a source saying there was a post office that closed in 1870. Otherwise, I can't find any evidence of this town existing (if you look for sources, be wary of Berea, Kentucky). Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:40, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kansas-related deletion discussions. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:40, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• See also: Bowling Green, Kansas, Hackett, Kansas, McCandless, Kansas, Pansy, Kansas, Shermansville, Kansas, Dennison, Kansas, Forrest Home, Kansas, Pleasant Hill, Kansas, Garlington, Kansas, Coburn, Kansas, and Greenwood, Kansas. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is probably best not to bundle those, even though they are currently all boilerplate GNIS mess dren that turns post offices into ghost towns with zero sourcing other than that unreliable GNIS computer database. You've picked the one article to nominate that is different to all of those others in its edit history. Uncle G (talk) 10:00, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Unbundled per Uncle G. The others have been moved to this conversation. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 19:50, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:59, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• There's definitely some evidence of existence in newspapers, for example this newspaper clipping from The Evening Herald in 1905 (and there's a few more of that same variety). Likewise with this clipping from The Greeley News in 1882. Can't find any good coverage of the town itself but these sources should prove its existence for a non-trivial period of time. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:38, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• There was at least a church as well. [1]
• Well there's always the source that the article was reportedly copied from:
  • Raitinger, Laine (March 2012). "Berea, Franklin County". Chapman Center Research Collections. hdl:2097/41054.
• Uncle G (talk) 09:23, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • The abstract of the Book states the town was short lived, which suggest non-notability. The book claims that the people and institutions that form there were notable. But that notability is not transferable to the town. James.folsom (talk) 23:14, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here is the full text of that book:https://krex.k-state.edu/bitstream/handle/2097/41054/2a40590251c95941ce77b68746e2adc2.pdf?sequence=1. If this is a valid secondary source, then someone could write an article that might be compliant with policy. I think there are still questions around if the coverage is sustained and widespread. James.folsom (talk) 23:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I find I'm unsure, the ghost town is listed on a ghost town Website as well. But beyond that and that book, that seems to be it. The material in the book is suggests it could be notable, so it all swings on that. James.folsom (talk) 23:32, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• delete Yeah, it's a ghost town: the location is "Berea Cemetery", presumably attached to the apparently former church. We've had a great deal of trouble dealing with the many Kansas 4th class post offices out of insistence that they are nonetheless "communities", but in this case we don't even know where the post office or church really were. I really don't think we should have articles on these places unless there is some evidence of an actuall settlement as opposed to a locale defined by a post office. Mangoe (talk) 20:21, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Mangoe: I believe we've demonstrated evidence of an "actual settlement" here? I'm not sure what else you're looking for to demonstrate that. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I read the whole book, and I think the only potentially notable thing is the slave underground railroand stop that was there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James.folsom (talk • contribs) 00:11, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I have not been able to find any mention of this place in the underground railroad literature. Though Franklin County was a hot spot in Kansas Underground railroad history. It was probably a stop on that railroad. It's going to be real hard to find anything. It's best that any articles on the counties role in the Underground railroad deal with this one source.James.folsom (talk) 00:06, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Newspapers.com turns up mentions of the churches – two tiny snippets about the first church erected by the United Presbyterians in 1858 and the presbytery of nearby Garnett meeting at Berea – plus a second advent (Millerite) being organized in a large mission tent in Berea in 1873. There are passing mentions of people who lived there including a man who committed suicide and another young man who was declared insane, plus others. Anyway, doesn't meet WP:GEOLAND or WP:GNG. Cielquiparle (talk) 01:08, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: no significant coverage. बिनोद थारू (talk) 19:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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