Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bethlehem Academy (Faribault, Minnesota)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:08, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bethlehem Academy (Faribault, Minnesota) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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fails general notability guideline. only sourced to a database (i assume, the link is dead). ltbdl (talk) 08:35, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Schools and Minnesota. ltbdl (talk) 08:35, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  ●Comment- Found the link in the wayback machine here. it is indeed a database. 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 15:44, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and Christianity. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:07, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete- per all of the statements I have made above & Below. 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 23:00, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. While the article is clearly deficient, the subject is notable and there are many independent links from Google. The article's sources are inadequate but sources exist. They show that the school has been in continuous existence for over a century and a half. Kablammo (talk) 11:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @kablammo: may i have links to those sources? ltbdl (talk) 15:06, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Ltbdl I have added 9 new references to this article, the refs are most likely the same links @Kablammo found. Although None of the refs I have found have significant coverage. 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 17:11, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I took a look at the added sources, and everything except for the sports coverage is junk sadly. They are all simple database sites without in-depth coverage.

  Many of those can be modified by the school, and is of questionable reliability.

  Unless Kablammo's links are substantial, I agree with PaulGamerBoy that there is not enough coverage to write an entire article about the school. Ca ^{talk to me!} 17:23, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I have reviewed the links and also some books citing local newspaper articles, and I agree that these, while independent, are little more than brief mentions rather than in-depth sources. Therefore I have stricken my Keep. Kablammo (talk) 12:42, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Found this additional coverage here Atlantic306 (talk) 00:19, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  That is not about the school itself. 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 20:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Part of it is directly about the founding of the school by the Dominican nuns, there is even a picture of the original building Atlantic306 (talk) 00:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops sorry i only read the first few paragraphs & the images didn't show on my browser. They appear now. 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 17:44, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Wider assessment of the significance of the sources mentioned is needed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NotAGenious (talk) 12:00, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:12, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

●Comment- After assessing the sources provided I personally feel that they do not provide enough "significant coverage in reliable sources", see my !vote above. 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 15:02, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

PaulGamerBoy360, Please consider a couple of additional sources below. — Jacona (talk) 18:53, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

•Keep- Due to the additional sources found, I am changing my !vote to keep 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 14:47, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. [This https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-irish-standard-bethlehem-academy-fa/136433285/] clip from 1896 is WP:SIGCOV. This article (and part2) from 1915 discusses their 50th anniversary, so founded in 1865. There are more, but I stopped here. This school was around 130 years before the internet. I'd be willing to wager there is lots of offline coverage in those 130 years. While I'm not arguing that being old alone is a guarantee of notability, I find it exceedingly unlikely that a school in continuous operation for 158 years would not be notable, and found sufficient evidence in just a couple of minutes. Based on these and other references, this article passes WP:GNG and therefore WP:NSCHOOL. Jacona (talk) 18:44, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. There are book references, One is "Preaching with Their Lives: Dominicans on Mission in the United States after 1850" ISBN 9780823289660. I have also found multiple references to a 1954 book about the school entitled "Five Decades". I can't find the book online. Maybe someone else has better skills than I. Here is one mention. Jacona (talk) 20:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep in view of the reliable sources coverage identified by Jacona that show significant coverage so that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:57, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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