- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. I don't really need to write a rationale, because TonyBallioni has already written it. Just let me know when the inevitable DRV happens. Black Kite (talk) 10:58, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NSPORTS. Talented h.s. player, but that's all. Onel5969 TT me 02:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Delete He is still in high school. Such individuals are very rarely notable, and nothing suggests that Anderson is an exception to this general rule of thumb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:27, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: Contrary to John Pack Lambert's assertion, he is no longer in high school. He has graduated and is now on campus at Indiana University, where he will play basketball for the Indiana University Hoosiers. He is one of the top recruits in the country and Wikipedia is full of other examples of similarly ranked players with pages. When this was first nominated for deletion, I thought it was a joke by a rival university (and perhaps it is). This easily meets the notability requirements, particularly if you look at the player pages for other similar programs.--IndyNotes (talk) 13:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. MT TrainTalk 09:04, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. MT TrainTalk 09:04, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions. MT TrainTalk 09:04, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Ample sources available to meet WP:GNG, including [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], and [8]. Also, as mentioned above, he's no longer in high school. I question whether Johnpacklambert even read the article. Smartyllama (talk) 17:11, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Meets GNG for notable high school career and recruitment. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 16:53, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, per Smartyllama's sources above. Ejgreen77 (talk) 11:48, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment He may meet GNG but seriously @IndyNotes:, and @Smartyllama: he is in high school this year and begins at IU in the fall. Read here for how his season in high school is going this year and how he was persuaded to commit to Indiana for next year. Very clear, and easy to find in a google search, how much did either of you actually read in making your claims of notability.67.158.64.105 (talk) 16:37, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- High school is over for the year. He's enrolled at IU now. Smartyllama (talk) 17:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well the last day for students is Wednesday the 6th and graduation is on Saturday the 9th. IU recruits report on June 12 to Bloomington but can't have formal practices with the team until the fall. Perhaps semantics, but since he is still going to play in an all-star game for high school students, well you finish that for yourself. Correction, that game was last night and he skipped it, my bad.67.158.64.105 (talk) 18:27, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- It's sad that you keep nominating things for deletion and only then checking to see if it meets GNG. Either way, I'm glad you seem to now understand your nomination was in error. Let's move on.--IndyNotes (talk) 01:54, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment either way he has still not played 1 game in NCAA competition, and even playing in NCAA competition is no where near grounds for notability. The school I teach at does not get out until the 21st of June.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:58, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- The high school calendar depends on the state. I don't know what state you're in, but many states' schools are out already. June 21 is unusually late, but not unheard of by any means. Smartyllama (talk) 01:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- This is kind of a pointless argument. High school players don’t meet a SSG anyway - the question is does this person meet WP:GNG? Many of the top high school players do. Rikster2 (talk) 10:43, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- The high school calendar depends on the state. I don't know what state you're in, but many states' schools are out already. June 21 is unusually late, but not unheard of by any means. Smartyllama (talk) 01:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 11:32, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 11:32, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete unless there's a LeBron James level of coverage, high school athletes are not notable; WP:YOUNGATH is an exclusionary standard. The reference listed are insufficient at this time. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:17, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
- Once again, he's not in high school anymore. The Indiana school year is over, he's graduated, he's at IU. Smartyllama (talk) 16:10, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: The evidence that he is now enrolled at Indiana University are numerous, but here's one example of support for that: [9]. That's really unnecessary to support keeping this article -- it should be kept regardless -- but there you have it nonetheless.--IndyNotes (talk) 02:48, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
- Strong delete I came very close to closing this as delete because not a single policy-based argument has been made for keeping it, and policy based arguments have been made for deletion. I'm !voting instead so when the inevitable DRV occurs, there is more for this deletion to be upheld on: stating that high school coverage becomes satisfactory upon enrollment is not in the spirit of the policy and certainly doesn't make common sense. If we follow this ridiculous logic, every single high school quarterback from middle of nowhere America who becomes a third string quarterback at the junior college suddenly would have all of their local paper's coverage count towards notability.The standard here is exclusionary and clear
High school and pre-high school athletes are notable only if they have received, as individuals, substantial and prolonged coverage that is (1) independent of the subject and (2) clearly goes beyond WP:ROUTINE coverage.
I'm sorry, but high school athletes getting coverage because they signed with a university is the very definition of routine and doesn't simply become exempt from the requirement because 2 months (or less!) have passed. The keeps here are stretching our inclusion policy to ridiculous lengths and should all be ignored as the standard is 100% clear and this person fails it. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:33, 17 June 2018 (UTC) - Delete Keeping /deleting a page should be based on Wikipedia guidelines and policies which after THIS IS WIKIPEDIA and the policies and guidelines are here for the reasons. No double his is talented but have not competed in a game in NCAA doesnt not pass WP:NSPORT. When the time comes and appropriate where subject "meets" the notability guidelines, then a page will be merited in mainspace. As of current stand, it is WP:TOOSOON. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:21, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
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