Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Devid Naryzhnyy

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The result was keep. Socks or not, almost nobody wants to delete this. Sandstein 08:39, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Simply does not meet either WP:GNG or WP:NSKATE. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:29, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 02:39, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 02:39, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Does meet #7 at Wikipedia:WikiProject Figure Skating/Notability. Skaters who qualify to the Junior Grand Prix Final can be presumed to have the ability to compete in the free skate at the World Junior Championships (criteria #2 at WP:NSKATE; only 6 teams can qualify to JGPF whereas 20 ice dance teams would compete in the free dance. Articles have been created for skaters at similar points in their skating career (i.e. qualified to JGPF, but have not yet competed at World Junior Championships) without being flagged for deletion; for example, Avonley Nguyen / Vadym Kolesnik. Sunnyou31 (talk) 03:56, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep What’s going on? This is ridiculous. I don’t know why it has to be deleted ...... but whatever you do with it, somehow they will compete Junior World Championships 3months later. It’s waste of time to discuss about this. I don’t get why onel5969 insisting on this. There are many figure skaters’s creation made like this and I never saw the discussions of deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonibyjourne (talk • contribs) 04:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC) [reply]

Struck, a blocked WP:NOTHERE user. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 17:08, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep well.I guess the user who made this discussion misunderstood about

Wikipedia:WikiProject Figure Skating/Notability. WP:NSKATE clearly says : “For notability guideline for ‘all’ figure skating-related subjects, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Figure Skating/Notability.” So it does meet #7 Skaters who qualify to the Junior Grand Prix Final.

Another Figure Skater Kamila Valieva she is also qualified for JGP final and never competed at Junior World Championship but her page is valid. Anna Shcherbakova when she was only competed Juior grandprix series her page was made and I dont recall any suggestion of deletion either. Lee Hae-in(figure skater) and Andrei Mozalev never qualified junior grandprix final and never competed JWC.

Just go watch 2019–20 ISU Junior Grand Prix Final qulified skaters names. I think figure skating fans have a right to know about who the skater is when skater is about to compete at JGP final.
Junior Grand prix final is even hard to qualify than JWC in FS world. It is really common who never competed at Finals but competing JWC multiple times. Guess original standard of wikipedia is a bit awkard anyway. Think I should suggest a revise.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoniiieei (talk • contribs) 07:28, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply] 

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• Keep Considering Elizaveta Shanaeva and Devid Naryzhnyy team’s qualifing Junior Grand Prix final for 1-1 it’s obvious they will be selected for Junior World Championships which is few months later.

Both Junior World Championship and Junior Grand Prix Final is the biggest event in figure skating considering they are the only 2 international competition giving points in Junior league. (it is counted for world ranking of figure skate) Also if Junior world championship is a only standard for deletion, they should consider qualified for Junior Grand prix “final” in first place. This is even more difficult to qualify than Junior World Championship. Have no idea why it isnt in the list. Maybe they only thought Junior Grand Prix series not final. 🤷‍♀️ My point is every year who qualified for JGP final, they were almost the same person who became top 3 of JWC(unless they got injured and drop the competition). if you cant believe me you can check the list from here. ISU Junior Grand Prix Final and World Junior Figure Skating Championships . Go and watch “medalist” of ice dancers. Deleting this article is only a waste of time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joanaones (talk • contribs) 06:22, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment I did manage to find one independent source: [1].4meter4 (talk) 17:49, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Qualifying for the JGP Final is more significant than qualifying for the free skate at Junior Worlds, especially as they did so with two gold medals.CaptainCanada (talk) 17:45, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - closer, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elizaveta Shanaeva.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 21:02, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment- for the record, my problem to be suspected as sockery (requested by user:Onel5969 has been solved by administrator. As my efforts to prove with reliable sources leaded to negative effect on previous article i will stay out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joanaones (talk • contribs) 21:39, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment- please consider most of users voted on ‘keep’ has many histories contributed to put sources on figureskating related articles, so it is presumed they have sufficient backgrounds. On the contrary, user voted ‘delete’ at AFD about Elizaveta Shanaeva and users put flagged on this article has no history contributing on figureskating related articles. They simply have lots of histories on managing wikipedia in general grounds. Also I remember onel5969 told me user doesnt know anything about figure skating when we had a personal discussions. It is not wrong users not having acquaintances on figureskating! for sure! but discussing and make consensus about notability has to be judged by “facts” that can be proved with decent common acquaintaces on the Sports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoniiieei (talk • contribs) 23:41, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. I believe that Wikipedia:WikiProject_Figure_Skating/Notability#Notability_of_individuals: #7 ("Won a Junior Grand Prix event or qualified to the Junior Grand Prix Final.") should have been included at WP:NSKATE. Skaters who win gold at a JGP event are among a very small, select group of the top junior skaters in the world. This accomplishment is just as, or even more prestigious, than bullet #3 (Competed in the free skate at the World Junior Figure Skating Championships) which is included at WP:NSKATE. Also, Shanaeva/Naryzhnyy are #19 on the ISU season's best list (which is composed of international scores from both senior and junior events). That means S/N are competitive with notable senior skaters.

http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/sb2019-20/sbtsdto.htm Hergilei (talk) 10:08, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Qualifying for the JGP Final should have been included here WP:NSKATE. Junior figure skaters should have a somewhat similar notability rules than what Junior gymnasts have there.

Junior gymnasts are presumed notable if they meet any of the criteria below

1. Won an individual gold medal at the junior national championships for any of the following countries: USA, Russia, China, Romania (females only)
2. Won an individual gold medal, in the junior division, at an elite international competition*
3. Won an individual medal at the Youth Olympic Games or Junior World Championships

Athletics99 (talk) 13:53, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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