Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dustin Moore

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep and clean up. This is not a fantastic article, but I wouldn't say it fails notability. I fully agree that the original plan of culling every bit of supposed inappropriate material isn't the best plan of action. Let's see if we can clean this up, guys. m.o.p 10:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dustin Moore (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

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Non-notable musician. WP:AUTO by a WP:SPA with WP:COI. I personally investigated every source given and found almost every single one to be completely bogus, so I removed them. Qworty (talk) 01:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• I think this was overly cut. Dustin Moore has producer credits for Nas Breathe CD and My Darkest Days CD song titled "The World Belongs to Me" this is listed on the CD's — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrjmoore (talk • contribs) 03:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are a WP:COI account, and as such should recuse yourself from making further additions to the article or defending it at AfD. Qworty (talk) 04:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what Mrjmoore's alleged conflict of interest consists of, but there is nothing wrong with him defending the article at AfD if he discloses his conflict. Even if Mrjmoore were Dustin Moore himself, if he disclosed that he would be allowed to defend his own notability if he did so in accordance with Wikipedia policies and guidelines. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Also, two of the sources are Wikipedia articles (a no-no), and two sources are YouTube links (unreliable).   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 07:22, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- -- Cirt (talk) 14:10, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dustin Moore is founder of Mulatto and works with Nas as producer music director. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrjmoore (talk • contribs) 16:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC) [reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:56, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment User Qworty, in addition to nomination, has used up 600kb of edit history storage to reduce a healthy 13k article down to a 2k stub. The original form of the article is far superior. Anarchangel (talk) 15:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Far superior" is based on how one interprets it, as most of the external links in that version contain at least 3 links to WP articles (a no-no), and a host of YouTube links (deemed unreliable sources, unless confirmed SPS). I haven't seen Qworty's diffs, but if he took those links out, he was right in doing so as WP articles can NEVER be used as sources in another WP article.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 19:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • See also D'Jais before Qworty and after Qworty. Dennis Rea article diff, Laurie Simmon diff. All within two weeks. Since Qworty's first edit was in March 2007 and Qworty was making suggestions at AfD only two months later, there is no telling how much damage he has done. I daresay most Qworty edits that are not unhelpful deletions are strategizing on how to insert PoV into articles, possibly producing stubs that by his own measure, should be deleted (assuming that is not the only one) or outright vandalism It makes me sick to my stomach. Anarchangel (talk) 16:03, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All pevious WP links have been replaced with other relialbe links. I am in the process of locating wp reliable sources in order to update what was overly cut. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrjmoore (talk • contribs) 00:26, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: As per nom, doesn't fulfill notability criterion. Bill william compton (talk) 16:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, at least for now, and allow the article creator an opportunity to address the reported defects. This article was in poor condition, but also included substantial indicators of satisfying the GNG. The nominator's slash-and-burn reduction of the article has little to do with encyclopedic value. Assertions that the subject had performed on network TV programs, referenced to youtube clips of those performances, fail as a matter of form, not as substantively unverifiable, and ordinarily should be tagged for better referencing, not summarily deleted. Sourcing the subject's date of birth to his myspace page is hardly inappropriate; WP:BLP clearly allows such referencing, and except in cases where the subject's accuracy/veracity has been reasonably questioned on the point (Ann Coulter comes to mind), there's no need for further referencing, let alone information removal. There's no justification whatsoever for removal of the subject's properly licensed picture from the article; God knows the porn actress publicity photos which infest the project would be similarly subject to COI removal were the action here valid. There's no case made here for immediate deletion, rather than affording an interval for removal; animosity toward the article creator is not a legitimate motive for removal of the article. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 18:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.