Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Deters

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Disregarding the argumentless "vote" by Multi7001. Sandstein 08:32, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG, fails WP:NAUTHOR, fails WP:NARTIST, fails WP:ANYBIO. Makes the news regularly on some (same) local papers which is expected of a controversial lawyer; fails WP:NOTNEWS. Sources invariably go "there is this thing in our city/state, and this lawyer said this about it, and by the way, that lawyer was disbarred" or "there is this thing and that lawyer that was disbarred is involved in it too". Not in the article: some local coverage for racist remarks[1] and association with Trump campaign[2], but no WP:SIGCOV. Usedtobecool ☎️ 15:52, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep There are multiple articles about Deters in the Cincinnati enquirer, one of the main newspapers for a major city, and there is a recent bloomberg article about the Kentucky Supreme Court ruling not to reinstate him: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/no-reinstatement-for-lawyer-whose-law-practice-is-like-anarchy.Jackattack1597 (talk) 18:47, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I also agree that this should be kept, based on the available sources. I went ahead and added the new citation suggested by Jackattack1597 and added a new sentence. However, there is now some conflicting info. The new source states he has been suspended since 2013, but another unsourced sentence states "Kentucky Supreme Court suspended Deters for 60 days, 30 days each for ethical violations in two cases dating back years." We should probably remove that, unless a source can be found? Peter303x (talk) 18:30, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keeps above are talking about news about the subject getting disbarred and subsequent attempts to get reinstated which failed; no dedicated coverage of the battle or the person, just news on the updates: disbarment, appeal, rejection, appeal, rejection, ... None of the sources are SIGCOV, and we need SIGCOV as there is no WP:NLAWYER.
  I would invite editors to consider the subject in the context of an encyclopedia with a selective inclusion criteria. (Even when there is SIGCOV but especially without,) a person is notable for doing something significant or being a major part of something significant, the infamous "best known for" if you will. What is the significant achievement of the subject? "A lawyer who got disbarred and then appealed and appealed all of which failed"? Following the legal recourse provided in every country with a functional justice system does not make one notable, not unless they win in the end and it leads to significant reform with regard to whatever went wrong. Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:37, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: The sources fail WP:SIGCOV and Deters doesn't pass WP:GNG to be on the List of disbarments in the United States. Per the page lede, Deters is known for his involvement in the Durrani and Jones cases, and per WP:CRIME, A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person. Perhaps Jones v. Dirty World Entertainment Recordings LLC could incorporate Deters' most relevant info, since he is already quoted on the page. Heartmusic678 (talk) 16:45, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Multi7001 (talk) 18:16, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails WP:GNG Not notable enough to justify a Wikipedia article and there is not significant coverage.RamotHacker (talk) 21:26, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete not enough general coverage, and no reason why there would be. In ome cases of lawyers disbarred for their activities, the reason for disbarrment has considerable relationship to their activies as attorney, such as dishonestly advocating for a client. In thiscase the infractions are unrelated. In ou rterms, he was vaned for harassment and then edited continued his work despite the ban. There's nothign of general interest about that. DGG ( talk ) 04:17, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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