Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frederick Cuming

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was roundrobin redirect per the below. Star Mississippi 02:14, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Frederick Cuming (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Prodded with the justification Violates the general criteria of WP:NOTDATABASE, and fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT #5. An attempt to find additional sources failed, and WikiProject Cricket was also unable to help.

Prod removed with the comment possibilty of more info about him with his MCC connection, per https://www.olympedia.org/athletes/17919

Redirect is not suitable, as Frederick Cuming (artist) exists and should be moved here. BilledMammal (talk) 08:00, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• If nothing can be found on this guy, then redirect to Cricket at the 1900 Summer Olympics#Medalists per WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE, WP:R#KEEP and WP:CHEAP. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 12:21, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete The article has some false information. Medals were not actually awarded at the Olympics until 1904. Non-notable people do not need redirects, especially when they are not actual significant to the target.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:49, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. While correct as trophies and other prizes were given to winners, the awarding of Gold Medals prior to 1904 for winners is retospective. Much like how prior to 1947, first-class cricket was not formally defined, hence retrospective status. So the info is not fake, otherwise the parent article would not have gained GA status. StickyWicket (talk) 11:30, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect Frederick Cuming (cricketer) to Cricket at the 1900 Summer Olympics#Medalists Subject fails the new updated guidelines, but clearly existed and won a medal at the Olympic games, which should be noted in some form, if not an article. With the other Frederick Cuming, he should be moved to this base name, and Frederick Cuming (cricketer) should become a redirect as a suitable WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:33, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• There needs to be a series of page moves here, as outlined above, followed by a redirect to Cricket at the 1900 Summer Olympics#Medalists. There has been some discussion about this at the cricket wikiproject, and there seems to be the view that a set of notes could be put together with basic details about the players involved. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:08, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.