Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hope Valley Amateur League

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The result was delete. Sole keep vote makes no reference to relevant guidelines or provides any sources which might indicate GNG. Fenix down (talk) 21:22, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hope Valley Amateur League

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The Premier Division sits at the 14th level of English football, so is significantly below the notable level. It has had very, very occasional coverage in the Derbyshire Times and the Buxton Advertiser (a search of both newspapers' websites will show you that this coverage is not regular nor in any great depth when it is covered). Since the league has been around for a while, I did a search of the newspaper archives but this did not yield any WP:SIGCOV whatsoever. All we can see there are occasional reporting on AGMs or just a brief results round-up; in most cases, this took up a mere fraction of a column in the local paper. This league seems no more notable than the several deleted recently. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:04, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:06, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 21:19, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I'm not comfortable with the spree of league deletions occuring. They might not be of national interest, and may not be high up the current pyramid, but they contain notable teams and have decades of history. The Hope Valley League is one such league with interest from both sides of the Pennines, and teams that are notable enough to have their own page (Hathersage F.C. for one). There are tens of thousands of Wikipedia articles out there dedicated to people, items, organisations and others that are nowhere near as noteworthy as the Hope Valley Amateur League. 92.9.45.199 (talk) 17:34, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No deletion is ever truly uncontroversial as every topic is always of interest to at least someone. Hathersage are notable because they have played in a national competition (the FA Amateur Cup) and not because they have played in the Hope Valley League and, in any case, notability is WP:NOTINHERITED and every topic must be notable in its own right to have an article. The only applicable notability guideline here is WP:GNG. If you can share WP:THREE sources showing significant coverage of this league, I will happily reconsider my stance. It must be said, though, that the newspaper coverage that I linked in my archive search above was minimal; often taking up a very small fraction of one column and akin to the sort of coverage that routine notices about someone's cat being missing or an announcement for a car boot sale receive... Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:40, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Low-level, sub-county level with only local coverage and interest. Personally I would see this as any more significant than eg my local town's operatic society. Coverage in the local press but little else. Nigej (talk) 14:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.