Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J. Mario Belougi

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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 09:53, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Obvious COI or possibly even UPE going on - 3 obvious socks have now been editing this article and the draft version (Draft:J. Mario Belougi). Copy-pasted into main by one of the socks today after they spammed like 2-3 dozen editors demanding that the article be published. Can't be "moved" to draft as the draft still exists, shouldn't be turned into a cross-namespace redirect, and I assume any attempt to draftify or redirect will be reverted by enthusiastic socks anyway, so here we are.

We begin with terrible text-source integrity - I removed like half of the article because it was making assertions that were baldly not backed up by the sources. None of the ones I removed so much as mentioned Belougi, including the 10-minute BBC radio excerpt I listened to in its entirety. There were also two instances of sources with the same URL but different title and/or website cited, in an apparent effort to literally invent additional sources.

I didn't find any better sources on a search. Of what remains in the article, #1 is accessible and mentions Belougi although I have no basis for assessing its reliability. #2 is password-locked for me so I can't assess it. #3 is hard paywalled. Given the text-source integrity issues, we cannot AGF that these are reliable, significant, or even so much as mention Belougi. Clearly, in the absence of actual reliable sources, we cannot retain this article. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 08:00, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 08:00, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 08:00, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: in complete agreement with the nominators reasoning - I thought something was going on COI-UPE-wise here and opened an SPI where all three were blocked JW 1961 ^Talk 15:16, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Cite #1, the kabarpemuda.com link, is a news blog that was set up two months ago, and most of its content is copied from other sources. It simply doesn't have the track record to be a reliable source - I wouldn't be surprised at all if it were a sponsored site set up for PR purposes. - MrOllie (talk) 14:00, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete almost of the mind that this is CSD G3. It's particularly suspicious that the photo creation is Turkish, that there's no a serious lack of Indonesian language sources (the closest I can kind is a passing mention of a social activist from Sulawesi called Arie Belougi [1]). The Indonesian version of the article looks to be complete fabrication (I'm assuming this is what the English article used to look like). The picture itself looks similarly fabricated (clothing is unlike anything one would wear in Dili in the 1990s given the weather and style of the time). Fails WP:V. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 20:15, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Have read through the one Indonesian language source [2]; claims he is the younger brother of Arie Beloughi. There's still seems no possibility of verification for any of the claims made, even if we accept this is not fabricated, this still fails the GNG. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 20:36, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete This got to be a HOAX. Reverse google image search leads to this image of https://preen.ph/67265/erwan-heussaff-reveals-his-secret-to-glowing-skin --WomenProj (talk) 22:38, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Good find, I didn't even think to try reverse-searching the image. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:17, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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