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The result was keep. Consensus is that the subject meets Wikipedia's notability standards. North America1000 03:42, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
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Subject appears to fail MUSICBIO. StrikerforceTalk 16:32, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 17:09, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - First, the nominator did not describe WHY he/she thinks the rapper fails WP:MUSICBIO. Second, you can clearly see that the article has several references (though note that a few are repeats) to in-depth articles in reliable publications like Pitchfork, Stereogum, and The Fader, among others. If the nominator thinks those are not enough for at least a stub article, more explanation is needed. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:39, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 19:18, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment The subject meets item 1 of MUSICBIO, but fails the rest. The first ten pages or so of a Google search are dominated by links to announcements about performances by the subject and where to buy their works. StrikerforceTalk 19:21, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Appearing near the top of a Google search is an indication of the popularity of the site, not the quality of its content nor the notability of the person described. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- So, let's take that argument this way and say that a reliable source would also, it stands to reason, be highly regarded in terms of "popularity of the site" and be near the top of a Google search, wouldn't you think? StrikerforceTalk 19:54, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- No I wouldn't think that. Do you have proof that being reliable makes a site rise up the ranks in Google's mysterious algorithm? But don't even bother because nowhere in the Wikipedia notability requirements can I find any statement that a subject is non-notable because reliable sites don't appear in a given place in Google search results. Besides, we have gotten pretty far away from my vote, for which I actually read some of the sources already cited in the article without being distracted by where they appeared in a list of Google junk. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:07, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- So, let's take that argument this way and say that a reliable source would also, it stands to reason, be highly regarded in terms of "popularity of the site" and be near the top of a Google search, wouldn't you think? StrikerforceTalk 19:54, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Appearing near the top of a Google search is an indication of the popularity of the site, not the quality of its content nor the notability of the person described. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep All notable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonnycraig888 (talk • contribs) 06:02, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- Strong keep. Not only are the sources on the article clearly reliable (and non-trivial), the first page or two of Google results alone turns up things like substantive articles from Vice[1] and the L.A. Times[2] (neither of these references are currently in the article; I may do that later). Could the nominator explain why this is not enough for notability? Gilded Snail (talk) 00:00, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. I agree with the previous comment. In addition, this artist has received coverage from reviewers like Pitchfork[3] which cater to an international audience. Vitomontreal (talk) 00:36, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Obviously notable. When searching for information on this artist I'd obviously want to come to Wikipedia first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.151.228.87 (talk) 18:01, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
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