- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Singularity 07:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Justin Miller (guitarist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
No case for note after some 8 months and some 3 months tagged. Made good faith attempt to remedy, but found no readily available sources on Google News, no press sources. No secondary sources in article at all: two point to official site and the other to a forum post by the subject. Presumably non-notable musician. MrZaiustalk 20:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Time's up, there's the door. - Richfife 20:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-notable.Sethacus 20:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 22:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, fails WP:MUSIC. Nenyedi • (Deeds•Talk) 23:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, no secondary sources at all, and no assertions to passing WP:MUSIC - Zeibura (Talk) 23:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose deletion As the creator of this article, I appreciate the and respect the opinions on this page although I don't agree with them. I think we have to ask ourselves this fundamental question: is Wikipedia going to become a place, for example, where only those guitarists who have attained the level of achievement of a Jimi Hendrix or Eric Clapton receive an article. I prefer to spend my time creating content rather than tearing down the work of others, with an exception for articles that are created for crass commercial purposes (advertisements).--Hokeman 01:17, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- There are many, many independent and small-scale musicians and bands covered here. The simplest threshold is multiple Wikipedia:Reliable sources covering the subject. Meet WP:MUSIC with strong sources, and the nomination will gladly be withdrawn. I unfortunately was unable to do so, myself. MrZaiustalk 02:02, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I read the Wikipedia:Reliable sources and WP:Music with strong sources sections as per your suggestion; however it's still not clear to me exactly where we draw the line as to who is "big time" enough to have his or her own article in Wikipedia. There's a lot of subjective decision making here. Miller is no Elvis, but he is a legitimate entertainer who has performed for thousands of people. --Hokeman 04:10, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- There's nothing subjective about it - Multiple independent, verifiable sources are required to make a strong case for notability. All that we have to point are a forum post by the bio's subject and a couple links to his personal site. Again, given that, I'd gladly withdraw the nom. MrZaiustalk 05:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.