Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Spanish Nobel laureates

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Primefac (talk) 13:16, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of Spanish Nobel laureates (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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No need for such per WP:LISTCRUFT. We are not bound to improve such stuff. Greenbörg (talk) 19:11, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Redirect to List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country#Spain per WP:ATD-R – Only seven entries; already sufficiently covered at List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country#Spain. J947^{(c) (m)} 19:56, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:05, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:05, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep:

• Per WP:NOTDUP relative to Category:Spanish Nobel laureates.
• Per WP:LISTPURP, functions as a useful navigational aid, as evidenced in part per the 540 page views the page has received in the last thirty days.
• Conversely, the category page has only received 44 page views in the last thirty days.
• Lastly, the listcruft essay is just that, an opinion essay, not a notability guideline.

– North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:29, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• @Northamerica1000: I am going to address your points:

1. WP:NOTDUP says, as a conclusion: 'When deciding whether to create or avoid a list, the existence of a category on the same topic is irrelevant. This applies to both sides of the argument.
2. Categories are what are meant to be navigational aids, and WP:LISTPURP says that The list may be a valuable information source. The list is not a valuable information source as its content is already at List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country#Spain with sufficient information. This article consists of no prose. See WP:NOTSTATS—which as a policy surpasses MOS—especially point #3 which states that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information and Statistics that lack context or explanation can reduce readability and may be confusing; accordingly, statistics should be placed in tables to enhance readability, and articles with statistics should include explanatory text providing context. Also, page views are not a measure of notability.
3. Same as above; page views are not a measure of notability.
4. This point is fair, but per my statements above I will not be swinging towards keep based on your !vote.

BTW, I have changed my !vote to 'redirect'. J947^{( c ) (m)} 07:13, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This discussion is one of 10 similar ones with arguments being copied-and-pasted. In the Spanish case this process has led to a misstatement: its content is already at List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country#Spain with more information than this article has, which is evidently incorrect: Noyster (talk), 08:06, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Y Fixed. J947^{( c ) (m)} 19:12, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect per J947. I'm not checking all 10 nominations, but I assume the same arguments apply to all of them. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:24, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - I feel this is a reasonable navigational approach. Carrite (talk) 03:08, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per WP:CLT; no need to delete or redirect. ansh666 18:14, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Also, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Polish_Nobel_laureates was relisted, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Swedish_Nobel_laureates redirected, Wikipedia:Articles for_deletion/List_of_Portuguese_Nobel_laureates redirected, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List of Liberian Nobel laureates redirected, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Argentine Nobel laureates kept. J947^{( c ) (m)} 18:09, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:08, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above and my other !votes. L3X1 (distænt write) 02:44, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.