Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucario

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Withdrawn. I still don't think there is any evidence is sustained or significant coverage for the subject, but it is clear that the AFD was grounded improperly, so I've withdrawn. (non-admin closure) — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 13:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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From WP:VG/CONTENT: "Avoid detailed coverage of in-game elements such as items, levels, or setting. If multiple reliable sources describe a game element's importance to a game or series, this can be summarized at the relevant parent article, in context. A separate article for a game element is typically warranted if multiple sources establish its importance outside the game itself, describing its influence on the game industry, history, or a genre."

This isn't the case for Lucario. Although there is an impressive number of references, they are largely primary sources to Pokédex entries and comics. Of the extant sourcing, none support the subject's significance to the video game industry, or even to the Pokémon franchise. — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 00:01, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 00:01, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Lucario is practically the franchise's third mascot after Pikachu and Charizard. It's also a playable character in Super Smash Bros., which is the equivalent of being knighted for a video game character. Sourcing an article about a Pokemon is nearly impossible because Google just gives fandom-related websites, so the sources are probably never going to be satisfactory. But in terms of objective notability, it's not really arguable. Mlb96 (talk) 04:00, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I really strongly disagree. Pokémon is extremely well-represented in Super Smash Bros.; ten have featured as playable fighters. It's difficult to find good sustained coverage of Lucario because Lucario is not important to the industry, Pokémon history, or to the genre. — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 04:17, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Lucario is a character, not "items, levels, or setting". There is no parent article since this is a recurring character throughout the franchise. The reception section is good, a character doesn't need to be "important to the world" to be notable. enjoyer -- talk 04:23, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The MOS guidelines outlined under WP:VG/CONTENT contains advice from an editorial perspective. WP:VG/CONTENT is not the relevant notability guideline to support a reasons for deletion, but WP:GNG. If there is an excessive amount of in-game elements within the article, then all by means be bold and trim it per WP:VG/CONTENT. Otherwise, having an excessive amount of in-universe fluff/prose is not a ground for deletion per Wikipedia's deletion policy unless the consensus here determines that there is no significant coverage as required WP:GNG. Haleth (talk) 08:36, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per reasons above. 49.149.124.152 (talk) 08:49, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.