Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maggie Renfro

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Vanamonde (talk) 05:17, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Another non-notable supercentenarian. She lived, she died... and that's all the routine coverage of her says. I explicitly am arguing for deletion, as she is a considerable way down the list and, once stripped of longevity puffery that's ridiculous even by the standards of this topic area, there is not enough detail for anything; WP:NOPAGE is especially applicable here. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:42, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:46, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:46, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:47, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete This article fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO1E because there is only sparse WP:ROUTINE coverage of her that fails to demonstrate notability and there is no notability guideline that "the oldest x" is notable. The content of the article is pretty much just trivia about her family and her secret to longevity, with mundane record details tossed in to pad the article. She lived. She avoided the Reaper longer then most. She died. Pure WP:NOPAGE. Her age, life dates, and nationality are already recorded well down on the List of American supercentenarians, where they are easier to view, so this permanent WP:PERMASTUB is not needed. Newshunter12 (talk) 00:55, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Although this article is longer than some of the permastubs that were recently deleted, there is indeed not any significant information about this person's life and deeds. To paraphrase: Maggie Renfro was born in Louisiana, worked, moved to Texas, got married, had no kids, moved back to Louisiana, and died at quite an advanced age. She was in good health throughout her life, and her sisters lived very long as well. Her entry as the 49th oldest American ever is enough coverage by Wikipedia standards for notability, because her age is the only reason she is documented in the encyclopedia. — JFG ^talk 08:55, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – no notability. Deb (talk) 19:39, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep –the three sisters combined are indeed notable- they are the longest-lived three siblings ever. For that reason alone, this article should be cleaned-up and kept or re-directed.TFBCT1 (talk)

  Where are the sources to bolster that? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:19, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It used to be clearly stated in reference #4 which I can see is no longer accessible. Here is a link with source and picture https://thegrio.com/2009/11/10/oldest-african-american-siblings-in-us-share-324-years-of-history/TFBCT1 (talk) 03:49, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Where in the notability guidelines does it say that "having a combined sibling age of X makes you notable?" CommanderLinx (talk) 11:24, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a matter of appreciation for the subject of longevity, not Wikipedia guidelines. It is asinine to think there would be a set combined age requiring notability, yet the Thornton sisters combined age of nearly 325 years is a verifiable record for three siblings and is hence notable.TFBCT1 (talk) 21:42, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ITSNOTABLE according to what policy or guideline? Because nowhere does it say "oldest X/combined X makes you notable". You'll need more than one local news report (in the articke itself not this AFD) to establish any notability. CommanderLinx (talk) 09:10, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It’s a Guinness World Record. That’s what makes it notable.TFBCT1 (talk) 03:00, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GWR are only inherently notable to Guinness and their fan club, not to the rest of the world. Newshunter12 (talk) 05:07, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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