Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mario A. Guerra

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The result was delete‎. The consensus of most participants is that this article subject is not notable. Liz Read! Talk! 03:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mario A. Guerra

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Fails WP:NPOL, WP:NAUTHOR, WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. No sufficient source to satisfy any application specific or general criteria. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Authors, Businesspeople, Politicians, Cuba, and United States of America. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. As always, mayors are not "inherently" notable just for existing, and have to pass WP:NPOL #2 on significant reliable source coverage that enables us to write a substantial article about their political impact. This, however, features virtually none of the type of content (significant things he did, specific projects he spearheaded, specific effects his mayoralty had on the development of the city, etc.) that we would need to see, and is instead devoted almost entirely to things he did before or after the mayoralty rather than anything he did in the mayoralty — and it's referenced predominantly to primary sources that are not support for notability at all, while the few third-party footnotes come entirely from a weekly community hyperlocal rather than GNG-worthy media of record, and are mainly sourcing things like "former mayor has sports complex named after him" (which is not a notability criterion) and "former mayor pens open letter thanking the community" (which is really just another primary source, since he wrote it himself). This isn't what it takes to get a mayor over the wikibar. Bearcat (talk) 13:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: The subject meets the criteria of WP:GNG as these three sources have significant coverage and are independent as well, hence reliable:

He is a recipient of Romualdo Pacheco Award as well. [4] Macyramps (talk) 15:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I struggle to see any sourcing that points to the political impact of the subject, as Bearcat describes. The LA Times articles are a bit better, but one one of them is primarily about the subject, and even that article is just that he was selected to lead a regional association. --Enos733 (talk) 16:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "The association is made up of about 50 Southern California cities that run their own police and fire departments, hence the “independent” designation. Combined, they represent more than 7 million people." - it doesn't seem to be a regional association. Macyramps (talk) 08:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 16:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Non-notable local official. News coverage seems to be mostly passing mentions and WP:ROTM stories about his mayorship. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 23:38, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Small town mayor who didn't receive coverage for anything other than being a small town mayor. SportingFlyer T·C 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Excuse my naivety, but I believe the recent comments from fellow editors are not entirely accurate. The first comment suggests that the coverage is merely passing mention, yet there are several articles that provide significant coverage. The second comment labels him as just a small town mayor, but he holds other notable positions as well, such as President of the Independent Cities Association. He also ran for the state senate, won the Romualdo Pacheco Award, and serves as a Civilian Aide to the Secretary of the Army, a position that carries a three-star general protocol. I believe he meets the notability criteria. Maplelaple (talk) 19:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC) — Maplelaple (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
    My comment referenced the fact that if he wasn't a mayor, which is usually the notability hook, he wouldn't otherwise be notable. SportingFlyer T·C 22:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand, but the comments in this discussion seem contradictory. Some are saying there is no coverage about his mayoralty, while others claim the coverage is only about his mayoralty. Additionally, it is worth noting that he was the first refugee ever to be elected as Mayor of the City of Downey. I'm adding more sources below for further clarification:
Mayorship Coverage: [5], [6], [7] and [8]
Non-Mayorship Coverage:[9], [10], [11],[12],[13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18] and [19] Maplelaple (talk) 13:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've taken a look, and the vast majority of those are simply local news coverage or are related to his political campaigns. I apologize, but I still don't see enough there to keep this. SportingFlyer T·C 16:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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