Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naoko Hayashiba

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The result was keep. Overall consensus is to Keep (non-admin closure) –Davey2010^Talk 23:48, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Naoko Hayashiba

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As a manga artist she is only known for one major manga work, but the article needs more information on her professional shogi career. Is she notable for the shogi career at all? If not, recommend this redirect to Shion no O. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:14, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:14, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Shion no Ō per lack of independent notability.--十八 03:09, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- I was in Japan when the shogi scandal occurred in 1995 and she was all over the papers. None of that is on the net now, but the CiNii database shows some 45 magazine articles on and by her in major weekly magazines, etc. [1]. A quick search of the net shows that she still appears in the major press for various reasons, recently apparently for health problems: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], etc. The fact she got this much press just for getting sick indicates how much she is a celebrity still garnering much press attention. Easily passes WP:GNG. Michitaro (talk) 04:00, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Im not sure if this would fall under WP:BLP1E or not, being in the news does not always equal notability. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly WP:BLP1E does not hold here because she is the author of a notable manga, she was a famous shogi player, and she also did other things that garnered lots of publicity (including doing a nude photo book, I might add). Please remember that objective level of coverage is crucial to WP:GNG so that we can avoid subjective statements about whether what someone does or not is "notable". Michitaro (talk) 16:09, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - It's probably a bit much to expect anyone outside of Japan to be switched on when it comes to knowing the subject, but she was an incredibly well-known prodigy in the shogi world, winning her first title at 14 and competing for two decades before being barred from the federation. She is also a light novelist with prodigious output and appeared in everything from quiz shows to wide shows. Even her bankruptcy was the subject of weeks of coverage. Passes WP:GNG readily. Jun Kayama 06:40, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the sources found. I am convinced that she has received enough in depth coverage. Now we just need someone to add the sources, and expand the article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:24, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for having been the subject of significant reliable coverage. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 14:23, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Needs work, but clearly notable.--DThomsen8 (talk) 12:32, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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