Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nautilus Middle School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash^talk 01:18, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Non notable elementary school Dismas|^(talk) 12:47, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is the second nomination for this article; the first was in June.

First nomination, result was keep

• Keep per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep Kappa 13:45, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. We must be running out of school articles to delete since this one already survived one vote. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Nautilus Middle School. Pburka 13:52, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep Vizjim 14:02, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this unnotable crap please. Dunc|☺ 14:34, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep this is more than just a stub. Also, you said "Non notable elementary school", which is the same thing you said in all the other noms. Except this is a *middle school*. Please at least *read* an article before nominating. Don't bother telling me the grades count as elementary elsewhere, since it's obvous you copy/pasted the *exact* same text every where. For some time now, I've been finding wikipedia really slow and non-responsive, meaning a save can take a minute or two, and often-times out. Often, I have leave it for several minutes or longer. Now, you've gone and nominated at least 22 schools in one day, and I would have to spend hours, if I wanted to vote against each. That's as bad as cheating. We shouldn't make decisions based on who's faster at the computer. That's why have rules like 3RR. Also, you're pushing others into doing the quick vote-without-thinking approach, which I resent greatly. I think all the noms for today by this nom, should be withdrawn as bad-faith, and the user prohibited from further for a period of time. I've seen automated vandals cause less damage than this. --rob 14:45, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • I didn't copy and paste the words "elementary school" in my nominations. And yes, to me grades 1-8 are elementary schools. The only thing I copy/pasted were the tags so that I didn't mistype the tag itself. I did read the articles. This one, though longer than the others, is still in my opinion just a collection of trivia about a non-noteworthy school. I'll admit that I missed the line in the talk page about the previous AfD vote. If there is a policy that I have missed about not relisting an article for AfD twice, then the nomination for this school should be taken down. No, I will not keep relisting it until it is gone as has been assumed by some. When all is said and done though, I still feel that this article is "schoolcruft". Dismas|^(talk) 19:42, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Irrespective of your claims, this mass-nomination (which despite your denial includes a middle school as an elementary school) is not only disruptive but borders on vandalism. Further, this is a clear attempt to thwart any attempt at concensus (although I believe true concensus is impossible on schools) by purposely mass-nominating instead of grouping the schools together in a format where an AfD discussion on schools from Miami-Dade could reasonably take place. It is fine that you "feel" that schools should be deleted, but mass-nominations is not an acceptable way of expressing that "feeling".--Nicodemus75 21:35, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • First, I find it hilarious that someone who cut-and-pasted exactly the same text as his vote in multiple nominations is such a state of high dudgeon over what he sees as cutting-and-pasting of text. Find a dictionary and look up chutzpah to see what I mean. Secondly, while you've got that dictionary out, look up "disruption", "vandalism", and "clear", since I do not think those words mean what you think they mean. --Calton | Talk 02:07, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Barnstar for Dismas. Censure User:Thivierr for personal attacks. Proto t c 15:17, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Delete--Isotope23 15:18, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep --Vsion 15:48, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Nominating over 20 schools in a single day is disruptive, and after reviewing the way in which you carelessly describe this middle school as a "Non notable elementary school" now makes it difficult to assume good faith on your behalf. This article is not a stub, it is quite informative and beneficial to its community or anyone else interested in learning about this school. There are more productive things to be done here on Wikipedia rather than stir up the pot. Silensor 19:28, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Longer does NOT equal better: I'm sure I could write a nice long and entirely verifiable article about the coffee pot on my desk, but that doesn't make it the least encyclopedic. --Calton | Talk 02:07, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • What is this nonsense supposed to mean? When you can write a neutral and factually verifiable article about how your coffee pot dramatically impacts the lives of Hispanic school children, please let me know! Silensor 16:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. No basis for deletion. Christopher Parham (talk) 19:47, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Teaches grades 7-8, lists the address, size, attendance and the students' ethnic origin as well as the colour of the school uniform. Sorry folks, this is a dorectory entry. Delete Pilatus 19:52, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• keep and please do not renominate schools like this we just agreed 77% of us at least that this school is encyclopedic two months ago at Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Nautilus_Middle_School. Yuckfoo 20:32, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, schools are notable, bad faith mass nomination. -GregAsche (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Bad faith mass nomination.--Nicodemus75 15:32, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep schools affect thousands of people if you integrate over time. Also this is disruptive, censure the nominator. Klonimus 04:16, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. This is one of a set of several bad faith mass-nominations not to mention a disruptive abuse of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Bahn Mi 21:47, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Please do not do this again. CalJW 22:11, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, schools are notable, bad faith mass nomination - Wikipedia is not paper. Who gave Dimas his janitorial barnstar??? Unwarranted time wasting effort to remove all elementary and middle schools from Wikipedia. KillerChihuahua 23:18, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, schools are not inherently notable. Not even middle schools. Lord Bob 01:09, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Delete I went to that middle school for 7th and 8th Grade a few years back and its Not Notable to me --Aranda56 01:59, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Bad faith nominator doesn't seem to know the difference between an elementary and middle school. --Gene_poole 04:29, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. No notability established. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 07:02, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Just to discoutrage this kind of mass nomination. It is bringing us nowhere. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:08, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just delete them, then, and you won't be bothered by them again, no? --Calton | Talk 02:07, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep for the same reason listed by Sjakkalle. -Parallel or Together? 07:25, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete --redstucco 10:15, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: non-notable grade school. Jonathunder 19:29, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - it clearly says that it is a school in the title. --Celestianpower ^hab 17:37, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, at this point nominating schools seems pretty much like a waste of time. gren ??? 07:00, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep schools. ··gracefool |☺ 19:09, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Longer than the schoolbot articles that have been put up for deletion, but still unencyclopedic. Delete. --Calton | Talk 02:07, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. I see no good reason for deleting it. --Andylkl ^(talk) 16:16, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. As noted by other editors, misidentified in the nomination as an elementary school. This article is also distinguished by its greater length and detail, and by the fact that it easily survived an earlier nomination for deletion, in June. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 17:15, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep Unfocused 21:15, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.