Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarah Danielle Madison

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The result was no consensus‎. Available sourcing seems to be right on the edge of establishing notability. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 05:54, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Danielle Madison

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Bit-part actor. Fails WP:NACTOR, WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 10:47, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women, and Illinois. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:52, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Some of her roles seem to be significantly more than "bit parts". Eastmain (talk • contribs) 11:08, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Eastmain: The subject may be notable but I don't think so. If there is coverage, post it up please. scope_creep^Talk 22:29, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:42, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. All her obits seem to hang notability on her 7th Heaven character. Graduate student in JP III or the wife of a xyz in House are bit parts, but there is much coverage on her death. [1], this [2] and others all explain about her time on 7th Heaven. Oaktree b (talk) 14:42, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Searching the internet I couldn't find any in-depth articles on her. But a lot of news articles published about her death. Kinkordada (talk) 17:14, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kinkordada: What is this "Mere Keep". General the form is either delete, keep, merge, draftify, weak keep, strong keep, weak delete, strong delete? Weak delete is generally not used much. scope_creep^Talk 17:43, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I meant weak keep. My bad. I will update that. Kinkordada (talk) 17:52, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Going to see if one more relist can bring out a consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 08:19, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep: It still needed more citations to allow it to pass WP:GNG. CastJared (talk) 10:43, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then why keep, not draftify or delete? Can you explain in terms of notability? Timothytyy (talk) 00:25, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a borderline case, but I don't think enough information could be extracted from those sources to make a good encyclopedic entry. Time of India citation cites IMDb, and I question its reliability. Vulture citation is a very short piece. www.usmagazine.com is OK, but it still does not have much substance. Based on these sources all information that we can verify is what films Madison was casted in and basic information like education and birth/death. Carpimaps ^{talk to me!} 12:09, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: All the weak keep votes are still stranded. CastJared (talk) 17:44, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't quite understand what you mean. Timothytyy (talk) 00:23, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The WP:BLP policy states Wikipedia must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources. Currently the weak-keep arguments don't the WP:THREE references to support a keep. The subject fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 08:11, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, Ms. Madison is no longer a living person. WP:BLP doesn't apply although our other policies and guidelines still do.

WP:THREE is an essay, not a rule.

-- A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 00:01, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 7th Heaven (TV series) - this appears to be her significant role, including as demonstrated by how she is identified in obits, e.g. Vulture (recycles a Chicago Sun-Times obit I have not been able to find), US Magazine ("She was best known, however, for playing Sarah Glass Camden (Barry Watson's love interest) in 7th Heaven from 2002 to 2006", also recycling the Chicago Sun-Times obit); Times of Israel, also recycling the Chicago Sun-Times obit and what her mother said). There appears to be some scholarly attention related to her role in 7th Heaven (MB Cantoral "7th Heaven's Seductive Role in the War on Terror," Quarterly Review of Film and Video, 2022, GScholar preview: "...By enclosing Matt and Sarah Glass's (Sarah Danielle Madison) courtship within the couple's emergent neoconservatism, 7th Heaven mobilized romantic tension to advance the...") and some notice for the portrayal of interfaith marraige [3] in Over the top Judaism: precedents and trends in the depiction of Jewish beliefs and observances in film and television. Her obit in the Chicago Tribune includes quotes from her mother and some information about her early life and education, as well as a brief listing of her roles and appearances on television and in film. There does not appear to be significant independent, reliable, and secondary coverage of her and her career to support a standalone article according to applicable notability guidelines, e.g. WP:BASIC or WP:NACTOR, and Wikipedia is not a memorial. Beccaynr (talk) 23:01, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.