Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Hot Club of Detroit

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 06:46, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Hot Club of Detroit

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Non-notable band completely unknown outside of Detroit, and even there only in very limited circles. Incarnatus (talk) 23:28, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:37, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, weak presence in WP:RS, with that restricted to very limited local coverage, thus failing WP:GNG. Fails WP:MUSIC, as only awards appears to be local in scope. --Kinu ^t/_c 00:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, there's the Boston Globe, the Plain Dealer (from Ohio), the Erie Times-News, the New York Times, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, and of course the Detroit Free Press and Detroit News. Also I think that group played at Orchestra Hall the very same day this deletion nomination was brought forward. Make what you will of these facts. This doesn't count as me taking the holy deletion debate sacrament. James470 (talk) 16:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm finding nothing in the New York Times other than a very trivial mention ([1]). The same goes for the Post-Gazette ([2]). I only see similar such passing mentions in other sources. Not exactly in-depth coverage to help satisfy notability requirements. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:03, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't know any fancy WP acronyms, but I'm thinking that any ensemble good enough to play at Orchestra Hall should be notable for Wikipedia. Come on: Dee Dee Bridgewater, the Vienna Boys Choir, Canadian Brass, not to mention the Detroit Symphony! Detroit Joe (talk) 23:57, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Notability is not inherited from playing at a venue that is itself notable or at which other notable performers may have played. There needs to be actual coverage about this group itself. --Kinu ^t/_c 01:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- By that logic, I can get myself booked at Orchestra Hall. Only a few people at my church know that I'm a phenomenal gospel singer, but whoever does the booking for Orchestra Hall will be impressed. Detroit Joe (talk) 23:53, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This way, the band's manager doesn't have to worry about this article being used to spread lies about the Hot Club of Detroit. Because we all know that here at Wikipedia we care much more about enforcing our silly notability rules than we care about ensuring the truthfulness and accuracy of the content that gets to stay. James470 (talk) 18:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non notable regardless of above. I was in a band played Glasgow School of Art on the same bill as Aphex Twin. Neither of those things make us notable enough for me to make an article about it. Chart, or kill somebody famous. Then you're notable. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but it's the way notability works here... Benny Digital ^{Speak Your Brains} 15:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.