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November 5

Category:Christian bishops

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Christian bishops to Category:Bishops, rename Category:Christian bishops by time period to Category:Bishops by time period, and delete Category:Bishops by religion. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:14, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Christian bishops to Category:Bishops
Propose deleting Category:Bishops by religion
Propose renaming Category:Christian bishops by time period to Category:Bishops by time period
Nominator's rationale: The whole category structure for bishops needs work but having gotten the Raëlian co-option of the term out of the way (see discussion) we are back to where "bishop" is a Christian term only as far as categorization is concerned. Therefore the "by religion" level of the hierarchy is superfluous and Category:Christian bishops can collapse back into Category:Bishops. SOme of the members of the merged category might be placed elsewhere in the hierarchy, but I think it would be easier if we dealt with those as separate discussions. Mangoe (talk) 22:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Black Rock region

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The result of the discussion was: Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 November 14#Category:Black Rock region. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:18, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Black Rock region to Category:Black Rock hydrologic unit
Nominator's rationale: Rename. While listed as a rename since the current name is not accurate in my mind, I think that deletion is the best choice. This area is one of about 3,000 USGS defined units. It would be much better for navigation to cover this information in articles about major units with sections for the subunits. I contend that being included in the USGS units is not defining for the articles. Note, this was created by a banned user. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians interested in mobile

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Dana boomer (talk) 18:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Wikipedians interested in mobile to Category:Wikipedians interested in mobile phones
Nominator's rationale: Or something else as the category directs users to mobile phone rather than mobile. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not myself a fan of subsetting Mobile to Mobile phones. Mobile includes tablets, PDAs, etc. Mathiastck (talk) 22:56, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok here is my counter proposal, have it redirect to Mobile computing rather then mobile phone. Mathiastck (talk) 00:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Baldwin, Evarts, Hoar & Sherman family

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The result of the discussion was: delete, as consensus at the AfD was that the defined "family" grouping is not recognized by reliable sources. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:21, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Baldwin, Evarts, Hoar & Sherman family to Category:Baldwin, Hoar and Sherman family
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Propose matching name to article name Baldwin, Hoar and Sherman family. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:04, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until problems with the associated article are resolved. It's not clear from the article that there is a sound basis for defining this collection of people as a family. It is likely that the category should be deleted. --Orlady (talk) 13:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This seems to be three or four families. The parent article needs to show how they all make up one family (or perhaps clan). Is there a common ancestor for members (including perhaps members' spouses)? At present the article seems to be a random collection of prominent Americans, some descended from an early president. We do not like descendant categories and have deleted categories for descendants of certain British and other monarchs. However, I am prepared to wait as suggested. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:38, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the insights from Britain. In this case, it appears that Roger Sherman is a common ancestral link. The other "family" members appear to be either his sons-in-law or his descendants. However, I don't see much evidence that this is a well-defined political family. The U.S. does have some prominent multi-branch political families, such as the Adams political family (apparently linked to the family that is the subject of this category), the Lee family, the Kennedy family, the Rockefeller-Aldrich family political line, and the Taft family but it's not clear to me that this collection of people has been documented as a political family by a reliable source. --Orlady (talk) 00:23, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Spanish American Jews

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Dana boomer (talk) 18:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Spanish American Jews (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAT. Jayjg (talk) 21:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Regions of Utah

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Dana boomer (talk) 18:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Regions of Utah (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Ambiguous inclusion criteria. I know that my geography is not good, but how is the Mojave Desert a region in Utah? I was not aware that this desert even extended into Utah. I suspect that there will be some suggestions to cleanup, but without objective definitions of what is included here we will always have problems. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Do songs

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The result of the discussion was: rename. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:22, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Do songs to Category:Do (singer) songs
Nominator's rationale: To match parent article, Do (singer). "Do songs" is pretty ambiguous. Plus, I created Category:Do (singer) albums before knowing of this category, so there should be consistency as well. — ξxplicit 04:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename While I don't always agree with the automatic addition of article title disambiguators in category titles, in this case it makes sense to include the disambiguator for clarity. Jafeluv (talk) 01:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:New Zealand Progressive Party

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated and delete the eponymous parent category. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:24, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:New Zealand Progressive Party politicians to Category:Jim Anderton's Progressive Party politicians
Propose renaming Category:New Zealand Progressive Party MPs to Category:Jim Anderton's Progressive Party MPs
Propose deleting Category:New Zealand Progressive Party
Nominator's rationale: Rename/delete. The name of the party has been Jim Anderton's Progressive Party since 2005. From 2002–2005, it was the "Progressive Party". It has never been called the "New Zealand Progressive Party". The eponymous category is unnecessary. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:St. John's University alumni

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Dana boomer (talk) 18:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:St. John's University alumni to Category:St. John's University (New York) alumni
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Match title of parent article St. John's University (New York). St. John's University links to a disambiguation page and there are many universities around the world that share the name. Alansohn (talk) 04:16, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Abrahamic symbols

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Dana boomer (talk) 18:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Abrahamic symbols to Category:Symbols of Abrahamic religions
Nominator's rationale: The phrase "Abrahamic symbols" seems to vague to me--even for someone who is familiar with the term Abrahamic religion. Thoughts? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:MTV Movie Award winners

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The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:30, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Category:MTV Movie Award winners (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Removal per Wikipedia:OC#Award recipients, compare MTV Video Music Awards winners, MTV Europe Music Awards winners, MTV Video Vanguard Award winners. The category was previously deleted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 February 24#Category:MTV Movie Award winners. Hekerui (talk) 02:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Building projects in Ajman

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Dana boomer (talk) 18:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Building projects in Ajman (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single entry category and I don't consider this as a part of a series since there are only two other categories. Article has ample categories. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:42, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:College ice hockey teams

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:42, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:College ice hockey teams to Category:University and college ice hockey teams
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Convention of Category:University and college sports clubs by sport (also Category:Canadian Interuniversity Sport ice hockey and Category:University ice hockey in the United Kingdom. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 00:40, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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