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Category:Lists of Heritage Sites

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:12, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Lists of Heritage Sites to Category:Lists of World Heritage Sites
Nominator's rationale: Rename to match the topic and to avoid confusion with other types of heritage sites. Note that the category did have a scattering of articles which I have since removed. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 23:51, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- This provides the category with a robust test for what should (or should not) appear. A list of Listed Buildings in the UK would qualify for the current name, but only a few are World Heritage Sites. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:24, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Rural municipalities in Manitoba

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus to delete - jc37 03:29, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete all. All the Manitoba rural municipalities categories are going to be deleted per WP:SMALLCAT. The number of articles on most rural Manitoba categories is between 1 and 4 articles. They were all not enough articles on all categories. Most of the categories or maybe all categories are going to be deleted per WP:SMALLCAT and it's growth. Steam5 (talk) 22:25, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. A few points:
  1. It's not a great idea to come to CfD saying that the categories "are going to be deleted". You propose that they should be deleted, but the next step is that there is a discussion here to see if there is a WP:CONSENSUS to delete, or or rename, or merge, or whatever.
  2. These categories are indeed all small, but have you investigated to see whether they have any reasonable prospect of expansion? WP:SMALLCAT refers to "categories that, by their very definition, will never have more than a few members"
  3. I see that Category:Rural municipalities in Canada has sub-cats for 2 other provinces (Category:Rural municipalities in Alberta and Category:Rural municipalities in Saskatchewan) but although the Alberta categ to be populated by articles on the municipalities rather than by a category for each municipality, Saskatchewan has 276 by-municipality small categories. This leaves me unsure of whether the Manitoiba categs meet WP:SMALLCAT's exception for categories which "are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:34, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: User:Train2104 already put some of the rural Manitoba categories for speedy deletion. I did not Canvass any user for real. It's just me and you, BHG. Maybe, If User:Train2104 or any user looks at the other Manitoba categories. Then Train or any user will decide to support deletion per small category. Steam5 (talk) 00:03, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- These are all very small categories, but several are not single article categories. Most relate to very small settlements, so that they will always be small cats. However, we do need some kind of navigation aid to link related articles. A "see also" section is not wholly satisfactory for this. I wonder if the solution is to convert the cats to navboxes. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:21, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Peterkingiron, could you relist it here until a consenus to be reached for other users? Steam5 (talk) 18:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment In my opinion, these categories should be removed. There has been a slow clean-up of material relating to these categories. This will result in the content in said categories being eliminated because the Rural Municipalities have all been renamed to eliminate locations such as Siglunes, Manitoba. Stormbay (talk) 02:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Stormbay, I see some of the rural Manitoba categories are already empty. If I remove the categories from above that the categories already empty, then we can switch it to another template for exchange for "speedy deletion". Does that OK Stormbay? Steam5 (talk) 00:30, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever will move this along is fine with me. Thanks! Stormbay (talk) 03:18, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, Stormbay. I already remove a few categories that is already empty and I exchange the template for "speedy deletion", Stormbay. Steam5 (talk) 05:24, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Administrators, as a result of this quiet discussion with a lack of users did not participate in this discussion, I have decided to close this nomination and this result will be a "no consensus". Steam5 (talk) 05:27, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Native Americans in the Civil War

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The result of the discussion was: Rename (C2C). The Bushranger One ping only 23:56, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Native Americans in the Civil War to Category:Native Americans in the American Civil War
Nominator's rationale: Rename to follow convention for American Civil War categories. Wild Wolf (talk) 21:51, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Canadian soccer categories

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. The Bushranger One ping only 02:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Oppose speedy. All Canadian soccer related categories will still be speedy renamed per C2C and per Category:Soccer clubs in Canada. Steam5 (talk) 21:36, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works by period

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The result of the discussion was: relisted at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_April_14#Category:Works_by_period.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Works by period to Category:Historical eras in popular culture
Nominator's rationale: When is a "time period" an "historical era," and when isn't it? That's one question I guess the community will need to help me with, at this CfD. I noticed the target category, created by me just weeks after the source cat by Stefanomione, through the sweeping and much-needed discussion about works by years and decades of setting. I believe there is more work to be done, and I offer this as an example of where we might continue. I don't especially care which way the merge goes, though I've proposed merging into "my" category as I do prefer the "in popular culture" naming structure to the more opaque (imo) "works by period."But maybe I'm not being objective. And again, maybe time periods and historical eras are two distinct things, but if so, how they are distinct is not clear to me, nor, I suspect, to other readers. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:United Kingdom comics stubs

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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum; discussion has already started in the appropriate place. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:United Kingdom comics stubs to Category:British comics stubs
Nominator's rationale: Rename per C2C: all other subcategories in Category:British comics use this naming convention. Fortdj33 (talk) 19:25, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Toys introduced in 1963

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:10, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose upmerging Category:Toys introduced in 1963 to Category:1960s toys and Category:1963 introductions
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to both parents. This is the only year-specific toy category we have.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:04, 23 March 2012 (UTC) Mike Selinker (talk) 14:04, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:The Ambiguously Gay Duo screenshots

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. The Bushranger One ping only 02:16, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:The Ambiguously Gay Duo screenshots (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge to Category:Screenshots of television. I can't imagine that more than two or three screenshots of the AGD will ever be in here... —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Greece under King Otto

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2C. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Greece under King Otto to Category:History of Greece (1832–1862)‎
Nominator's rationale: to comply with similar categories on periods of modern Greek history Constantine ✍ 08:48, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:History of Greece (1864–1909)

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The result of the discussion was: speedily rename at category creator's request (CSD G7). -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:History of Greece (1864–1909) to Category:History of Greece (1863–1909)
Nominator's rationale: Speedy rename: error by creator Constantine ✍ 08:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Universities in the People's Republic of China

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The result of the discussion was: Spedy rename C2C. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Universities in xxxxxxxx to Category:Universities and colleges in xxxxxxxx
  • Propose renaming:
added by BHG:
Nominator's rationale: Inconsistent naming conventions. The convention is to have Universities and colleges and that is used by most categories for many countries. Such example includes Category:Universities and colleges in Canada by city. It is more descriptive and in line with the norms of categories named after sub national areas like Category:Universities and colleges in the United States by city. --Visik (Chinwag Podium) 07:19, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Some categories are already named correctly like Category:Universities and colleges in Beijing and Category:Universities and colleges in Shanghai. --Visik (Chinwag Podium) 07:32, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Khowar organizations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. This is a single-article category, and the sole article (Anjuman-e-Tarraqui-e-Khowar) is already categorised in the categories to which this one should be merged, i.e. Category:Khowar language, Category:Chitral District, and Category:Language advocacy organizations. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:11, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Khowar organizations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: At first glance, this single-member category appears to be for Khowar-language organizations – i.e., organizations which officially use the Khowar language. This characteristic is, in my opinion, not defining and should not be categorized (it's worth noting that we do not have Category:Organizations by language). On closer examination, however, the category also could serve as a container for organizations whose focus is the Khowar language. This would be defining, since it it relates to the purpose of the organization, but a new category title would be needed to identify the revised scope.
There is also the question of subcategorization. Do we want to start with a general category for organizations promoting various languages (Category:Language advocacy organizations?) or with specific categories for individual languages (e.g. Category:English language advocacy organizations, Category:French language advocacy organizations, and so on)? -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:50, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Transportation in Las Vegas

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:08, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Transportation in the Las Vegas Valley to Category:Transportation in Las Vegas
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Rename to match the main article. This wound up at this title as the result of a problematic move of the parent category from metropolitan area to valley. This move changed the scope of this entire series of categories from about 8,000 sq mi or so to 600 sq mi. The move was based on a redirect from the metro area to the the valley article that is there only because a manual cleanup of around 4,000 links is still needed, not because in the long run that the redirect is correct. Most of the links should go to the valley, but a good number are really for the metro area. So it is a manual review and not a bot task. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:23, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Musicofgreece

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The result of the discussion was: speedily deleted by Drmies (talk · contribs · logs). -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:33, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Musicofgreece (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Category:Greek music already exists P. D. Cook Talk to me! 02:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Midwest hip hop musicians

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:17, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Midwest hip hop musicians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: unnecessary and broad category, what is considered as "midwest" Delete Secret account 01:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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