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Category:Kentucky women by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: keep on procedural grounds, without prejudice to a broader discussion. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:12, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The combination of American state and gender is not a distinguishing one. Being a Kentucky woman scientist‎, for example, is not sufficiently distinct from a woman's being a scientist in another American state. Suggest upmerge to the relevant parents at Category:American women by occupation. SFB 20:25, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for starting a discussion on this, @SillyFolkBoy:. I could really use some extra brain power. The idea was to start conversations amongst Kentucky women scientists as part of Kentucky Science and Entering Foundations's efforts to aid Art & Feminism's edit-a-thon in Lexington, April 2018. What other techniques could we use to meet the goal of connecting scientists with the public while focusing on Kentucky and having a way to see their pages all together? Sbbarker19 (talk) 20:44, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Sbbarker19: The category system is more for navigation, and a not very publicly visible one at that. A much better approach would be to start writing information more broadly in article space, like Women in Kentucky. I'm sure you can dig out various threads from the articles at Category:Women in Kentucky. If you're looking to create more content on Kentucky women, then there are a few missing articles for a start at Kentucky Women Remembered. I'm not expert, but I think focusing on Kentucky women scientists may be a little too narrow for your event – maybe you can try and get people to expand articles on Kentucky women and American women scientists in general? I would leave a message at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red and see if they can give you any pointers on approach for an edit-a-thon. Good luck! SFB 20:58, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose.
  • Procedurally The nomination would simply delete the container category while keeping all the categories which contain actual biographies. This would be pointless; it wouldn't recategorise any articles, and would just make it harder to find the categories.
    If the nominator wants to remove the subcats, then they need to be listed along with appropriate merge targets.
  • Substantively I oppose this because many occupations are closely tied to place and the status of women has varied masively by state. The parent categories ("American women fooers") are big enough to merit diffusion, and the study of women by state is a well-established topic of acdemic study. See e.g. 572 hits on JSTOR for "women in Kentucky" OR "women of Kentucky" OR "Kentucky women". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:58, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Thibodaux Senators

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 July 19. ℯxplicit 01:04, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Defunct minor league team category with just two entries and unlikely to get more. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ancient Greek expatriate athletes

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Being an ancient Greek sportsperson from abroad is not only not definitive of the subject, but is ahistorical in that it applies notions of the modern nation state and citizenship to ancient times SFB 16:34, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Athletes honored by Pindar

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is essentially a list of people who Pindar has written about. This is best dealt with in article text rather than a navigational category, where the actual importance and relevance of this can be discussed further. SFB 16:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(typo in nom corrected) DexDor (talk) 17:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cartilaginous fish described in the 20th century

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:23, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused Ronhjones  (Talk) 15:29, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cartilaginous fish described in the 21st century

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused Ronhjones  (Talk) 15:29, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cartilaginous fish described in the 19th century

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unused Ronhjones  (Talk) 15:28, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:The Voice (franchise) coaches

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The result of the discussion was: listify and delete. ℯxplicit 01:04, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:PERFCAT --woodensuperman 14:25, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral – as the category's creator and per this. LinguistunEinsuno (Linguist111) 14:45, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Architecture works

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 08:04, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is an unclear distinction between categories in Category:Works by academic discipline and Category:Works by topic which ends up with two different subcategories in the example forms of Category:Architecture works and Category:Works about architecture.
I propose we resolve this issue by recasting categories in the academic tree as "Academic works about X", then placing these as children within the broader "Works about X" tree. I think the original aim was to separate educational from entertainment content, but I'm not sure that is possible: beyond the purely academic (journals, newsletters, databases etc), other media often serve both an educational and entertainment purpose (e.g. Category:Documentary films about architecture). Note that fictional works are already separated via the Category:Fiction by topic tree. SFB 14:22, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Medical museums in Saint Petersburg

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only 2 articles. Not likely to be any more Rathfelder (talk) 10:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Social enterprise

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 08:05, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge, unclear how this category distincts itself from its parent category. (The nominated category should not to be confused with its subcategory Category:Social enterprises, with only one letter difference.) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • If there are any articles that fit better in Category:Social entrepreneurs there is obviously no objection against moving these articles to this alternative category on an individual basis. Generally however most articles in the nominated category are neither about individual organisations nor about individual people. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:44, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Marcocapelle. Rathfelder (talk) 17:45, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:National Film Awards (India)

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The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To maintain consistency with the parent article National Film Awards. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:47, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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