Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 22

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Category:Cricket organizations

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Category:Assassinated Maltese journalists

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Category:Revolutionaries from West Bengal

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 13:42, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose downmerging Category:Revolutionaries from West Bengal to Category:Revolutionaries of Bengal during British Rule

Nominator's rationale: rename, this concerns people from British India when West Bengal did not exist yet. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 19:04, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- Technically incorrect, West Bengal and East Bengal have existed since the Partition of Bengal (1905). These individuals were born after 1905.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:27, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That first split lasted only six years, until 1911. It is not a defining characteristic for people who were active before 1947. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 17:48, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

French governors of Egypt

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:French governors of Egypt, selective merge to Category:18th/19th-century Egyptian people. – Fayenatic London 11:35, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:18th-century French governors of Egypt to Category:18th-century Egyptian people and ~~Category:French campaign in Egypt and Syria~~ Category:French governors of Egypt
Propose merging Category:19th-century French governors of Egypt to Category:19th-century Egyptian people and ~~Category:French campaign in Egypt and Syria~~ Category:French governors of Egypt

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only 3+1 articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:39, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - being 'governor of Egypt' is defining. There is the extensive Category:Ottoman governors of Egypt. A by-century split is however excessive for 4 articles. Create Category:Governors of Egypt with French and Ottoman subcats. (The present Category:Governors of Egypt should be renamed to 'in' or similar.) Oculi (talk) 09:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I created Category:French governors of Egypt and changed the merge target accordingly. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:31, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I find Category:Heads of state of Egypt which is better still. (The french ones will be French, not Egyptian.) Oculi (talk) 20:14, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't Category:Heads of state of Egypt be a bit odd merge target, since Egypt was not an independent country at the time? (By the way, that also applies to the Ottoman governors category.) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:46, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Good point. Egypt has a complicated history. I see the 3 French ones lasted for 2 years between them. Maybe Category:Rulers of Egypt would be better (per Lists of rulers of Egypt). Oculi (talk) 18:45, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest to keep it to the merge to Category:French governors of Egypt for now. Renaming and restructuring higher level categories can better be discussed in a fresh discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Two follow-up discussions about higher level categories can be found here. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 19:04, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 17:46, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I see no reason to nbreak the format of governors of Egypt by century. Dimadick (talk) 17:06, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom, SMALLCAT. — Qwerfjkl talk 13:45, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Do the subjects in these cats really belong to the "Egyptian people" cats? bibliomaniac 1 5 05:33, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair question. I suggested to leave the articles in the Egyptian people tree because as a governor they are supposed to be (semi-)permanent residents. It is arguable though. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:24, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Tobacco advertising characters

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 13:43, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Tobacco advertising characters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, it is only a defining characteristic for Joe Camel and Marlboro Man and these two articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Category:Tobacco advertising - after removing the Flinstones characters, they all seem to fit that category. (Oinkers42) (talk) 17:01, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, that is reasonable. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:08, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.