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Category:Loriciel games
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 April 17#Category:Loriciel games
Category:Planned communities
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. Disputes about the title of New towns in the United Kingdom and similar articles should be addressed separately at RM, after which the moves of associated categories can be revisited. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:26, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Planned cities to Category:Planned communities
- Propose merging Category:Planned cities by country to Category:Planned communities by country
- Propose merging Category:Planned cities in Australia to Category:Planned communities in Australia
- Propose renaming Category:Planned cities in Bangladesh to Category:Planned communities in Bangladesh
- Propose renaming Category:Planned cities in Brazil to Category:Planned communities in Brazil
- Propose renaming Category:Planned cities in Cambodia to Category:Planned communities in Cambodia
- Propose merging Category:Planned cities in Canada to Category:Planned communities in Canada
- Propose renaming Category:Planned cities in China to Category:Planned communities in China
- Propose renaming Category:Planned cities in Greece to Category:Planned communities in Greece
- Propose renaming Category:Planned cities in Hungary to Category:Planned communities in Hungary
- Nominator's rationale: Fallout from discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_April_6#Category:New_towns_in_Egypt. There is no defined difference between New town, Planned city, and Planned community (Planned community is the accepted name for the article). Merge the split trees to a common branch. WP:OVERLAPCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:09, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- @PalauanReich, Marcocapelle, Namiba, RevelationDirect, William Allen Simpson, Ypedia1, and Nederlandse Leeuw: pinging members of prior discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:11, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support all top level merging, and conceptually support renaming, in order to bring it all together in one tree. Though I am open to local variations (e.g. per WP:ENGVAR). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Further comment: per discussion below, the categories of Hong Kong, Singapore and the UK may well be kept, as a local variation. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- I support all except we should rename the Egyptian ones to Egyptian New Cities. The cities in that category are specifically the NUCA ones and they are official called “New Cities”. The website for them is newcities.gov.eg. PalauanReich 20:03, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support with thanks for the effort — contra Marcocapelle and PalauanReich, I'm less open to local variations especially poor official translations.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 20:06, 10 April 2023 (UTC) - Support per nom. Wow, great work! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:24, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support Most/Oppose UK & HK Ones For Now Support per WP:C2D to match the main article. There are two specific main articles though (New towns in the United Kingdom & New towns of Hong Kong so we should not rename UK (including England, Whales, Scotland & Northern Ireland) and Hong Kong subcats. Not sure if this is a true WP:ENGVAR or just non-standard naming but either way those should go through an WP:RM on those articles not CFD. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:27, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Not merely WP:ENGVAR, it is "London"-var. It was based on the name of a specific parliamentary act, and only used in London.
- When I was studying urban planning in the 1970s in the US, the London term had fallen out of favor.
- When I visited Scotland in 1993, the locals were nearly up in arms about the "London parliament" (or "English parliament" with English dripping with scorn) taking over housing control from local councils; that and independence was all anybody talked (to me) about on trains and busses. (Then my relatives had me visit Culloden. Nobody had taught me about the Battle of Culloden, even though our house had a Fraser coat of arms at the front door.)
- Hong Kong planning didn't start as "New towns"; the article says that term was only used "
In the late 1960s and the 1970s
". It was different earlier and is different currently. So planned communities is a better fit.
- Not merely WP:ENGVAR, it is "London"-var. It was based on the name of a specific parliamentary act, and only used in London.
- Those are all potential arguments for renaming the articles in an WP:RM, after which these categories could be speedily renamed per WP:C2D. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:26, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Unsure for most. Oppose for Singapore. There is New towns of Singapore article, and it is known as 'new town' rather than 'planned communities' in Singapore. – robertsky (talk) 08:32, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- The Singapore article is badly named. "New town" is a retronym based on the London planning term, was not originally applied to the first (Queenstown), and not applied to the latest (translated "forest" town). Stop trying to make all english translation into London jargon.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:48, 11 April 2023 (UTC)- Whatever happened in London is something that is beyond Singapore. Within Singapore, all planned urban areas are called known as towns [1], even the latest urbanisation that was started from 2020ish at Tegnah [2]. – robertsky (talk) 15:46, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- The Singapore article is badly named. "New town" is a retronym based on the London planning term, was not originally applied to the first (Queenstown), and not applied to the latest (translated "forest" town). Stop trying to make all english translation into London jargon.
- Support as proposed. Thank you Aidan721 for following up on this.--User:Namiba 11:27, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose -- I would prefer Category:Planned settlements to avoid the complication of what is a city/town/village. The UK (and some others) should not be renamed at all. They were created under the New Towns Act and so should remain "towns". I would be guided by those with local knowledge as to HK and Singapore. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:20, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Amusing, as Planned settlement (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) was created as a redirect since 2007. The chosen term has been "planned community" since 2012.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 03:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Amusing, as Planned settlement (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) was created as a redirect since 2007. The chosen term has been "planned community" since 2012.
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Heat waves by year
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- The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. 1-2 articles per year does not suffice this tree. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:21, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:32, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support A whole tree of nearly empty categories is not part of "a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:29, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Charles Chinedu Ndukauba
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- The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. G5. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:39, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The actor is not notable enough to merit an article, so does not require a category. Certes (talk) 16:57, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- I just noticed WP:Articles for deletion/Charles Chinedu Ndukauba for the matching article (now salted following repeated deletion). Certes (talk) 09:37, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:59, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Withdraw: category now deleted: creator revealed as a sock. Certes (talk) 16:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:1666 fires
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:1666 fires to Category:17th-century fires and Category:1666 disasters
- Propose merging Category:1681 fires to Category:17th-century fires and Category:1681 disasters
- Propose merging Category:1689 fires to Category:17th-century fires and Category:1689 disasters
- Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated 1- or 2-item categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:16, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:1681 disasters in Europe
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:37, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:1681 disasters in Europe to Category:1681 disasters
- Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated single-article category. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:17, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Fusion night vision devices
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:37, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Fusion night vision devices to Category:Night vision devices
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 16:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:45, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I don't have as much experience in this realm (category maintenance) so I'm not sure. I have a few articles on fusion night vision devices partly written that I mean to publish including the envg-b and the E-COTI. Fusion is kinda the next step forward for night vision but it's still in its infancy. Looking at WP:SMALLCAT, I think this category has potential for growth as the technology progresses but I understand if it's best to merge it back in for now. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 00:01, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge as nominated. The only entry is not a fusion device. It is 2 technologies. "Fusion" is not mentioned in the article.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:33, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Cold War conflicts
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- The result of the discussion was: No Consensus - As this has been open almost a month, I don't see a point in relisting for more comment at this stage. Feel free to (re-)nominate one or both of these categories at editorial discretion. - jc37 09:58, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Cold War rebellions to Category:Cold War conflicts
- Nominator's rationale: Almost all Cold War conflicts were either rebellions or began as rebellions. Unless a clear criteria can be established I think we should merge this category into Category:Cold War conflicts. Charles Essie (talk) 16:01, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Just delete, it requires too much subjective editor judgment to determine how much these rebellions are related with the Cold War. We already have less ambiguous categories like Category:Anti-communist resistance movements in Eastern Europe. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:57, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
A merger is better because there are many Cold War conflicts not included in the eponymous category. If it makes it easier, I'll shrink this category by removing content that only needs to be in its subcategories.Charles Essie (talk) 17:46, 10 April 2023 (UTC)- If we're going to just delete it we should make sure that the conflicts inside it are moved to Category:Cold War conflicts. Charles Essie (talk) 15:34, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- That's the very meaning of merge.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- That's the very meaning of merge.
- Delete per Marcocapelle — current contents has little to do with the Cold War other than contemporaneously.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC) - Further comment, we should delete Category:Cold War conflicts too. Apart from the Berlin Blockade and the Cuban Missile Crisis it is entirely subjective. I will nominate that one when this discussion is closed. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:59, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- I couldn't disagree more so I'll definitely participate in that discussion. Charles Essie (talk) 01:40, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Close, it's been over a week since the last reply and no one has expressed opposition to getting rid of Category:Cold War rebellions. I think we can proceed. Charles Essie (talk) 05:05, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Floods by year
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- The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:1789 floods to Category:1789 natural disasters and Category:18th-century floods
- Propose merging Category:1814 floods to Category:1814 natural disasters and Category:19th-century floods
- Propose merging Category:1821 floods to Category:1821 natural disasters and Category:1820s floods
- Propose merging Category:1824 floods to Category:1824 natural disasters and Category:1820s floods
- Propose merging Category:1825 floods to Category:1825 natural disasters and Category:1820s floods
- Nominator's rationale: Continued proposal of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_26#Floods_by_year. Not enough floods per year prior to 1990s to warrant these categories. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Germanic tribes
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Early Germanic peoples without rename as resolved during discussion. (non-admin closure) William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:10, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Germanic tribes to Category:Ancient Germanic peoples
- Alt 1: upmerge Category:Germanic tribes to Category:Early Germanic peoples
and rename to Category:Ancient Germanic peoples - Alt 2: upmerge Category:Germanic tribes AND Category:Early Germanic peoples to Category:Historical Germanic peoples
- Alt 1: upmerge Category:Germanic tribes to Category:Early Germanic peoples
- Propose renaming Category:Germanic tribes to Category:Ancient Germanic peoples
- Nominator's rationale:
WP:C2DList of Germanic tribes redirects toList of ancient Germanic peoplesList of early Germanic peoples. (Category:Ancient Germanic peoples currently redirects to Category:Germanic tribes.) - Alt 1 rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT: they cover the same subject + WP:C2D:
List of ancient Germanic peoplesList of early Germanic peoples is the main article of Category:Early Germanic peoples. - Alt 2 rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT: they cover the same subject. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:33, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- PS: My argument is purely technical, but there are also some semantics involved that could lead to still other alternative proposals.
- "Early Germanic" has the advantage of not having to comply to the periodisations of "ancient" to pre-500 CE and "medieval" to 500–1500 CE. Since the category tree includes Early Germanic culture, Early Germanic warfare and Viking Age Norsemen (all up to the 10th/11th century), I would be in favour of renaming List of ancient Germanic peoples to List of early Germanic peoples.
- "Historical" in "Category:Historical Germanic peoples" may be redundant, as main article Germanic peoples already identifies all "Germanic peoples" as that they
were historical groups of people
(emphasis by me), so upmerging even that category to Category:Germanic peoples would be a legitimate move. This would also make the "early" in "early Germanic peoples" that I suggested above redundant, however. I think for clarity's sake, we better keep "Historical" for now. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- PS: My argument is purely technical, but there are also some semantics involved that could lead to still other alternative proposals.
- Per nom's rationale there is a third alternative: just merge Category:Germanic tribes to Category:Early Germanic peoples, this is alt1 without renaming. I agree that in this case "early" is better than "ancient". Marcocapelle (talk) 17:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- I would be in favour of that, but for that, we should probably rename the main article List of ancient Germanic peoples to List of early Germanic peoples first. As far as I can tell from the templates, talk page and edit history, it's a somewhat contentious article, and they don't like undiscussed moves. What we could do is put this nom on hold, and go to the talk page there to propose this, and once we succeed resume this CfR? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:02, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Best to proceed with WP:RM for the article. But even if it does not succeed we can still have the category renamed that way. It is unusual to have different names for article and category, but not strictly forbidden. A well-known example is the usage of disambiguators which is more common in category names than in article names. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:38, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Good idea. I posted it at Talk:List of ancient Germanic peoples#Requested move 10 April 2023. This is probably the first time I've done an RM, but there's a first for everything. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:40, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- If there is consensus to anyway 1°) merge tribes and early peoples and 1°) move away from tribes, I suggest to implement that without holding, knowing that the merged category may later be itself renamed following the result of the RM. Place Clichy (talk) 12:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'd rather do things right. If you participated in the RM, it might help us establish that consensus within the standard 7 days, and that should be unambiguous justification for merging tribes and early peoples, and moving away from tribes. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:04, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- If there is consensus to anyway 1°) merge tribes and early peoples and 1°) move away from tribes, I suggest to implement that without holding, knowing that the merged category may later be itself renamed following the result of the RM. Place Clichy (talk) 12:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Good idea. I posted it at Talk:List of ancient Germanic peoples#Requested move 10 April 2023. This is probably the first time I've done an RM, but there's a first for everything. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:40, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Best to proceed with WP:RM for the article. But even if it does not succeed we can still have the category renamed that way. It is unusual to have different names for article and category, but not strictly forbidden. A well-known example is the usage of disambiguators which is more common in category names than in article names. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:38, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- I would be in favour of that, but for that, we should probably rename the main article List of ancient Germanic peoples to List of early Germanic peoples first. As far as I can tell from the templates, talk page and edit history, it's a somewhat contentious article, and they don't like undiscussed moves. What we could do is put this nom on hold, and go to the talk page there to propose this, and once we succeed resume this CfR? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:02, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Alt 1. No need to differentiate between early and Ancient. 'Historical' is too ambiguous, and Germanic categories have been plagued by wrong conceptions such as considering any polity loosely associated with a Germanic-family language up to the 20th century as a historical Germanic people, such as e.g. the Grand-Duchy of Luxembourg or the Thirteen Colonies. Place Clichy (talk) 12:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly, which is why I'm trying to fix some of this stuff and bring it back to what is relevant. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:04, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Update
List of ancient Germanic peopleshas been moved to List of early Germanic peoples per RM. This essentially eliminates the rationale of the main proposal, and strongly suggests Alt 1 (without renaming) is now the preferred outcome. So far, nobody seems to be in favour of Alt 2, and Place Clinchy and myself have stated objections against it. It seems the conclusion is now obvious. Thanks everyone (including at the RM and the Early Slav CfRs) for your feedback, this was a difficult one. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 18:26, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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Fires in Europe by year
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:32, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging
- Category:1811 fires in Europe to Category:1811 fires and Category:1810s fires in Europe
- Category:1812 fires in Europe to Category:1812 fires and Category:1810s fires in Europe
- Category:1814 fires in Europe to Category:1814 fires and Category:1810s fires in Europe
- Category:1819 fires in Europe to Category:1819 fires and Category:1810s fires in Europe
- Category:1822 fires in Europe to Category:1822 fires and Category:1820s fires in Europe
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, the categories in the 19th and 20th century mostly consist of 1 or 2 articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:10, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:23, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge all as WP:SMALLCATs. Though this may in turn create some other smallcats for specific years that only have one fire. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:19, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Cold waves by period
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:31, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:1886 cold waves to Category:1886 natural disasters, Category:1886 meteorology and Category:19th-century cold waves
- Propose merging Category:1887 cold waves to Category:1887 natural disasters, Category:1887 meteorology and Category:19th-century cold waves
- Propose merging Category:1888 cold waves to Category:1888 natural disasters, Category:1888 meteorology and Category:19th-century cold waves
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Most have 1-2 entries per year. Not enough content on a yearly basis to warrant this tree. Merge to either decade or century cold waves as specified above and appropriate parent cats. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:04, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:13, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:17, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Slavic tribes
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Ancient Slavic peoples, matching the RM. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:29, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Slavic tribes to Category:Ancient Slavic peoples
- Alt rename Category:Slavic tribes to Category:Early Slavic peoples
- Propose renaming Category:Slavic tribes to Category:Ancient Slavic peoples
- Nominator's rationale: WP:C2D: main article is List of ancient Slavic peoples. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:46, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Alt rename rationale WP:C2C: parent Category:Early Slavs, whose main article is Early Slavs. Similar CfR plus requested move going on for
ancient Germanic peoples
to early Germanic peoples.
- Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:57, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Rename per nom and WP:C2D. Place Clichy (talk) 12:49, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Also support alt renaming to Category:Early Slavic peoples per the latest discussion below. Place Clichy (talk) 08:42, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Ancient is a common (mis-)translation of Russian drevni, but in English Ancient history has a specific scope that is inappropriately applied here (the Ancient period ends 500 AD, but the Slavic tribes only formed near the end of that, their important history follows it: e.g., East Slavs’ contact with the Rus from the 800s through to the second millennium). Category:Early Slavic peoples or the like would be better. —Michael Z. 14:47, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Good points. Since yesterday evening, we are also in the process of a similar CfR/M involvig ancient/early Germanic peoples/tribes, and are seeking to rename List of ancient Germanic peoples to List of early Germanic peoples, where I make pretty much the same points as you do here (see Talk:List of ancient Germanic peoples#Requested move 10 April 2023). I had just forgotten to also apply the same logic here after I posted this CfR yesterday morning. I've added this as an Alt rename option, and personally it is my strong preference. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:53, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- The term of Late antiquity precisely applies to the period of the Slavic invasions in the Byzantine Empire, though. Antiquity ends earlier in Western Europe, but that is unrelated to Slavs. Place Clichy (talk) 08:42, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, but still these Slavic tribes’ existence was not restricted to the Ancient world geographically nor chronologically, and they are not defined as Ancient. The Severians paying tribute to the Rus in the tenth century and Kushka being killed by the Viatichi in the twelfth have nothing to do with the Ancient world and shouldn’t be categorized as such. —Michael Z. 15:15, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- The best venue for this discussion would be an WP:RM at Talk:List of ancient Slavic peoples. Once a consensus is reached there, I would favor the categories matching that outcome. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:06, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- I just moved it to List of early Slavic peoples. —Michael Z. 03:54, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- The best venue for this discussion would be an WP:RM at Talk:List of ancient Slavic peoples. Once a consensus is reached there, I would favor the categories matching that outcome. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:06, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, but still these Slavic tribes’ existence was not restricted to the Ancient world geographically nor chronologically, and they are not defined as Ancient. The Severians paying tribute to the Rus in the tenth century and Kushka being killed by the Viatichi in the twelfth have nothing to do with the Ancient world and shouldn’t be categorized as such. —Michael Z. 15:15, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Ancient Slavic peoples per WP:C2D, to match the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:06, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:A2Z (Philippine TV channel) original programming
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- The result of the discussion was: delete per WP:SMALLCAT. If the category is expandable, it should be recreated as Category:A2Z (TV channel). bibliomaniac15 06:30, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Main page moved to A2Z (TV channel) as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 09:01, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete/rename and recategorize. The current category has 2 entries. None are actual programs but lists so don't belong in an "original programming" category. A category for Category:A2Z (TV channel) can be used for that. Gonnym (talk) 22:52, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Upmerge to Category:Original programming by Philippine television network or channel — WP:SMALLCAT size 2, both lists. Note "A2Z" was a film redirect, although somebody copy and pasted the TV channel, and it was promptly reverted. Even though that could be repaired, this rename is not a good idea. According to the lists, there are only 2 original programs so far, and neither has an english article.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 13:02, 11 April 2023 (UTC)- I've moved the old redirect to A2Z (2006 film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), as most articles here mention 2006, although it was apparently filmed in 2004, and IMdb claims a release in 2007. Now A2Z (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) redirects to the disambiguation page, and I've fixed all the links.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 14:20, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've moved the old redirect to A2Z (2006 film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), as most articles here mention 2006, although it was apparently filmed in 2004, and IMdb claims a release in 2007. Now A2Z (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) redirects to the disambiguation page, and I've fixed all the links.
- Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Gonnym is right that the category does not contain articles about original programming, so merging within that tree as User:William Allen Simpson proposed is not appropriate. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:A2Z (TV channel), per nom. And recat to Category:Television networks in the Philippines, per User:Marcocapelle. - jc37 08:49, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:2010 Claxton Shield
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:26, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Isolated category with only two member pages. Siblings that held only 1 page have already been upmerged speedily (WP:C2F). – Fayenatic London 08:29, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Triple merge as nominated.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:48, 10 April 2023 (UTC) - Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:03, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Country subdivision templates
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 23:25, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:C2C Category:Administrative divisions, and WP:C2D main {{Lists of administrative divisions}} and {{Types of administrative division}}, and content such as {{Articles on fourth-level administrative divisions of countries}}.
- This a compound neologism by banned User:Tobias Conradi, who used 150+ sockpuppets over 5+ years to spam this all over wikipedia, one of the worst cases ever seen. One of the sockpuppets was User:Country subdivision. Before coming here, he'd been banned at the German wikipedia. These were all supposed to be fixed (and many articles were simply deleted), but sadly others linger a decade later. It is so easy to mass create categories, and so much harder to fix them.
- Precedent:
- William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:53, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Kestenbaum, Laurel Lodged, Marcocapelle, Oculi, Place Clichy, and RevelationDirect:: currently active participants in previous discussion.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 12:38, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support all per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. SilverStar54 (talk) 21:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per WP:C2D. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:34, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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