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Category:17th-century Armenian people by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 10:35, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This is a redundant category layer. SMasonGarrison 23:40, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dune (franchise) families

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:21, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are no actual articles for this category, and a low chance that a flood of real articles could ever be made. It's also bad form to flood this category with redirects, which are already included at Category:Dune (franchise) element redirects to lists. Jontesta (talk) 23:31, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Biography articles without living parameter

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 26#Category:Biography articles without living parameter

Category:17th-century Lithuanian philosophers

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 26#Category:17th-century Lithuanian philosophers

Category:Birdwatching sites in Poland

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Birds of Poland. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 10:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer SMasonGarrison 20:39, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Analog Drum Machine

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 26#Category:Analog Drum Machine

Category:Coats of arms of families of Poland

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) SMasonGarrison 20:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories SMasonGarrison 19:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oops. I figured out how these are different. This category was just underpopulated. SMasonGarrison 20:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Films with screenplays by

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:23, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per past consensus, a filmmaker has to have a biographical article about them before getting a category to batch their films under. None of these categories have corresponding articles and all consist of only one or two films. An effort was make to broaden the categories by searching for other works by these filmmakers, and none were found. Vegantics (talk) 19:54, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Suicides by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 19:00, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Everything in this category and its subcategories are trivial intersections. PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, these are not trivial intersections. AHI-3000 (talk) 17:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which aren’t? How are they any different from model or sportspeople suicides? PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose this intersection would only ever be trivial if there couldn't possibly be a correlation between the two separate categories or any interest in a list of people who are part of the two categories. Of course this isn't the case here. Here are just three of thousands of sources that deal with the correlation between occupation and suicides: [1], [2], [3]. PetScan isn't by a long shot user-friendly and widespread enough that category overlaps should be abolished. Rkieferbaum (talk) 18:50, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They are trivial intersections for our purposes. Is there any individual category you think to be defining? I would have nominated them individually but they all appear to be non defining. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This category is helpful for navigation. SMasonGarrison 19:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison Navigation between categories that are non-defining. Which categories here do you think are defining? If there’s an argument that some are I can just nominate the others. But everything here the tie between these things seems wholly tangential. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For further explanation, categories that go along the lines of “people murdered for [their occupation]” are defining and not trivial - but that is not what is here. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Until those child categories don't exist, I see no reason to delete this category. I had nominated several categories to discuss on their merits. I think your nomination here is premature. SMasonGarrison 20:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. Every single category in the category seems just as non-defining as the others on their merits. Even if nothing comes out of it is productive to have a conversation about what is here and the general principle underlying them. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:54, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't nominate those categories, you only nominated the container category. SMasonGarrison 21:01, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison I was going to tag the subcategories later since that would take a bit.
I want consistency more than anything - my issue is that the individual categories within this have been repeatedly deleted and recreated due to CfD discussions, all included within it are dubiously defining. I do not care if this category exists or not, but within it I want consistency. This category existing encourages trivial cross categorizations - but are they trivial?
If there is some place we can discuss whether murder or suicide as an intersection with career is a valid cross categorizations, I can close this and we can have the discussion there, but I don’t know where we would bring this up! PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:07, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t have an issue with the general goal you’re trying to achieve, but I think a different approach would have been better. For example, starting with an RfC to gather community input could have been helpful. Starting a conversation on the talk page after looking through the several failed attempts that have come before might have also helped. You could have waited to get a sense of the broader community’s stance on these categories and to see how nominations for the several below played out.
By starting with the nomination of the container category, you’ve inadvertently created a situation where those who want to retain even a single category are now united in opposition. A more incremental approach -- addressing individual categories first -- could have allowed for more productive discussions and gradual consensus-building. This way, you could have chipped away at the issue without alienating contributors who might otherwise support some of your proposals. SMasonGarrison 21:28, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison I apologize, I do not usually do CfDs, I admit fully this was not the ideal way to do this. I was looking at the murdered sportspeople category because I was writing an article on a murdered sportsperson and I thought that would be a useful category. Only to discover that the consensus was it be deleted several years ago, but it had been recreated without discussion. And then I looked at related categories and discovered the problem in question extends to several. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also agree with the person below in that, I think the reverse is actually more ideal because I think these categories are either all defining or not at all. They all have the same problem. Half the keep votes in the individual CfDs are "there are other categories like this so this is part of that set" (which I sympathize with since they all seem about the same amount of defining). I don't know where I would put an RfC like this. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:59, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An RFD might work on the category talk page or posting the question on the Categories for discussion talk page. SMasonGarrison 03:55, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, these are non trivial and useful for navigation and as subcategories. Nayyn (talk) 23:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nayyn How are they non-trivial? Consensus in past CfDs was to delete these. What changed? PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Aarne-Thompson Grouping

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Aarne-Thompson grouping. The Bushranger One ping only 02:25, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: not a proper name. --Altenmann >talk 17:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People pardoned by John Adams

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 28#Category:People pardoned by John Adams

Category:Meigs family

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 28#Category:Meigs family

Category:Pornographic actors who died by suicide

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 28#Category:Pornographic actors who died by suicide

Category:Models who died by suicide

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between cause of death and occupation SMasonGarrison 14:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Serves these purposes for Category:Suicides by occupation
If Sucides by occupation is a relevant category than these subcategories are too. Nayyn (talk) 14:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But Suicides by occupation isn't for diffusion purposes. It's to keep the categories where the intersection between cause of death and occupation is defining. I strongly encourage you to make a substantive argument about why this specific category is defining. SMasonGarrison 16:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sportspeople who died by suicide

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category (under a slightly less nice name) was deleted in 2021, along with its subcategories, and recreated this year without discussion. I do not think there is anything new to overcome the 2021 consensus that this is a trivial intersection. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If this is your feeling, then why not move to nominate all of the categories in Category:Suicides by occupation ?
If you do not consider these categories worthy then there should not be a container category for them. As there is a container category, it is natural that people who find these categories useful / meaningful will continue to create them. Nayyn (talk) 11:41, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The category is neutral, verifiable and defining. If you are unwilling to have a conversation about Category:Suicides by occupation then it does not constitute a trivial category. Nayyn (talk) 11:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Serves these purposes for Category:Suicides by occupation
If Sucides by occupation is a relevant category than these subcategories are too.
Nayyn (talk) 14:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Otherstuffexists is not a good argument. You're better off demonstrating that this specific intersection is defining. Saying it's defining without explaining why isn't helpful/convincing. SMasonGarrison 16:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Putting it another way, what is the benefit to the site to removing this category? What harm does it cause to the site by existing? The discussion from 2021 considering it trivial was arbitrary and this is a living project. Nayyn (talk) 23:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again -- that's not how categorization works. Non-defining categories do not facilitate navigation and make it harder to find defining categories. Do you have any affirmative arguments that support keeping this category? I can't help you if you don't familiarize yourself with how CFD works. SMasonGarrison 04:03, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, this is not a trivial intersection. AHI-3000 (talk) 17:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How is it not? PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:17, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AHI-3000 could you please elaborate on why this isn't trivial? SMasonGarrison 20:05, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Murdered sportspeople

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Discussion about a new category for people who were murdered because they were sportspeople can take place elsewhere. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category was deleted in 2021, along with its subcategories, and recreated this year without discussion. I do not think there is anything new to overcome the 2021 consensus that this is a trivial intersection. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Same here @PARAKANYAA if this category is not meaningful or worthy of wikipedia, you should nominate Category:Murder victims by occupation or else these sub-categories will continue to be populated.
Wikipedia has evolved since 2021 and if the reason to delete is simply because several years there was a conversation about it, the fact the categories are being created anew means they have utility on the site.
Suggest for deletion the parent categories if they are not meaningful to the site. Nayyn (talk) 11:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. This specific intersection is non-defining. SMasonGarrison 14:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If this is "non-defining" then would it not apply to all in Category:Murder victims by occupation @Smasongarrison? Nayyn (talk) 14:39, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Otherstuffexists is not a good argument. You're better off demonstrating that this intersection is defining. SMasonGarrison 14:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, this is not a trivial intersection. AHI-3000 (talk) 17:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:CATDEF, if someone is murdered because of their occupation, like Patrick Dennehy, Otávio Jordão da Silva, Andrés Escobar, or Bryan Pata, then it is a unquestionably a defining intersection. For others, it is non-defining but could be included. As CATDEF says "For non-defining characteristics, editors should use their judgment to choose which additional categories (if any) to include."--User:Namiba 20:54, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right now that category doesn't make the distinction for the motive -- which is why I asked if you supported narrowing the category. SMasonGarrison 21:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you want to change the name then? PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:03, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm indifferent to changing the name. I can't think of a better name but if you can, propose it. However, I think this discussion would benefit from nominating all of the murdered occupation categories and not just sportspeople.--User:Namiba 15:27, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When I tried to do that for the suicide categories people voted keep because I wasn’t nominating them one by one! There is no winning. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:53, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is definitely challenging sometimes to know if a individuall evaluation makes sense versus a group nomination. Conceptually, it's when the change is the same versus unique, but editors here often honestly disagree on that point. RevelationDirect (talk) 19:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Delete/Open to Narrower Category per WP:G4, recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion and the trivial intersection issue remains. (If a more narrow category can be created for those murdered because they are sports stars, totally open to that since it would be defining.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:NA-Class articles

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The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 20:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The pages in this category and all its subcategories seem to be largely automatically and incorrectly tagged, and I doubt we need it (whether named "articles" or "pages"). Something like Talk:Lists of animated feature films is now automatically a NA-class article of high importance, when in reality it should be an unassessed class article of high importance. Something like Talk:"Bob" is automatically put into "NA-class" when it should be in "Redirect class". The whole NA-class tree seems to be a giant mistake with many tens of thousands of pages. Fram (talk) 08:01, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is just the result of template population weirdness. Some of the banners only populate one or the other (I think). It's not standardized. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Probably, but then these templates need updating, as they are categorizing incorrectly. Fram (talk) 08:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't disagree. @MSGJ? PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:36, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes we had some dodgy code for a few days, which should now be fixed. Talk:Lists of animated feature films is now correctly shown as a redirect, as is Talk:"Bob". If any project does not have a specific category for redirects, then it will fall back to NA-class. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Book leaks

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:28, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:NONDEF. There aren't any articles specifically about leaks in this category, unlike the parent category. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomSMasonGarrison 14:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:NBA Cup–winning players

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:29, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Incorrect English. It should be Cup-winning. We would always use a hyphen for compound words, while an ndash is used to separate phrases. Plus even if it were separate phrases an ndash would require spaces on either side. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I created this category and understand and completely agree with you. When I created the Category:NBA championship–winning players, I named it with a hyphen (-), as you correctly stated it should be. However, I noticed that the category NBA championship–winning head coaches uses an ndash (–), which isn't rare on Wikipedia; lots of other categories that should have a hyphen in their title instead have an ndash. When I saw this, I requested to change the name of the aforementioned category for players that have won the NBA Finals to have an ndash instead of a hyphen. My reasoning was to keep consistency with two very similar categories, and also categories that have quite a few people in common given how hard it seemingly would be to win an NBA championship as both a player and a head coach (seven people are in both categories: Bill Russell, Tom Heinsohn, K.C. Jones, Bill Sharman, Steve Kerr, Phil Jackson, and Pat Riley. I knew it was punctuantionally (is that a word?...haha probably not) incorrect, but I figured there may be some kind of naming convention on Wikipedia where all category titles use en dashes regardless of if it's correct or not, even though I couldn't find one when I looked. I am all for changing the title of this category, as well as the other two categories I have mentioned and any others I can find that have an ndash but should have a hyphen. BittersweetParadox (talk) 08:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know why it didn't show up, but the categories I mentioned are "Category:NBA championship–winning players" (the category I created with a hyphen but then changed to an ndash), and "Category:NBA championship–winning head coaches" (the category I saw with an ndash and the reason I changed the one with players). BittersweetParadox (talk) 08:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as non-defining.--User:Namiba 15:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as non-defining. SportsGuy789 (talk) 20:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Re: the name, per MOS:SUFFIXDASH:

    Instead of a hyphen, use an en dash when applying a prefix or suffix to a compound that itself includes a space, dash or hyphen

    —Bagumba (talk) 08:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NONDEF. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Come on, this is not defining. Will not show up in these players’ obituaries that’s for sure (at least at this point in the tournament’s history). I have questions if this should even make the players’ infobox. Rikster2 (talk) 23:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree. It doesn't seem important to fans right now because it is new, but if you watched any of the games and saw the extra effort the players put in, it's obvious it means a lot to them. It's a trophy and a real accomplishment. I know accomplishments aren't listed in soccer managers' infoboxes but they are definitely considered when evaluating a career. Just because the tournament is new does not mean it is irrelevant. BittersweetParadox (talk) 08:43, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I should've mentioned this but the reason I brought up the soccer managers was to make a parallel to league cups in soccer (such as the F.A. Cup, or the Carabao Cup which is probably a better comparison) being comparable to the NBA Cup. Whoever has the most points at the end of the season wins the league, but the FA cup final is one of the biggest sporting events of the year throughout Europe, if not worldwide, and has nothing to do with league standings, just like the NBA Cup. I know the popularity aspect is not true of the NBA cup right now but that is the intention of the NBA and I do think it will get to that point eventually. Like you, I don't think it is as important as the NBA finals, but I do think it's an accomplishment that should be listed since it is one of two team trophies given out in the NBA, and it carries a lot of importance with the players and coaches. BittersweetParadox (talk) 08:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is not at the level of league cups in soccer, not even close. If that becomes the case, the categories could easily be created then (WP:TOOSOON). What I saw was the Milwaukee Bucks players leaving their celebration Champagne untouched because they don’t see it as a real championship. Yes, they played hard for the $500k they each got for winning it. Rikster2 (talk) 14:11, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Audiovisual introductions

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 26#Audiovisual introductions

Category:Jewish white nationalists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Category:Neo-Nazis of Jewish descent can be discussed elsewhere if desired. The Bushranger One ping only 02:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't believe this is a defining characteristic. Searching for the term brings up the category and news articles about white nationalism and anti-semitism, not Jews who support white nationalism. There are BLP concerns too with the living people included in the category. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:21, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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