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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:41, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Ver.1.00 → Nikon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Same reason shown here. ${\displaystyle M_{101}^{atr1x-}}$ {_user^page! | _t^a_l^k!} 23:12, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as ambiguous --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:04, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Too much of a generic term. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 13:13, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 23:41, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Athletics/Alumni Center (Houston) → Houston Cougars#Athletic facilities  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Odd that this exists when Athletics/Alumni Center (no disambiguator) doesn't exist, considering it was deleted as the result Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 8#Athletics/Alumni Center. Steel1943 (talk) 20:39, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Brown sugar (disambiguation)#Songs. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 18:41, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Brown Sugar (song) → Brown Sugar (Rolling Stones song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Retarget to Brown sugar (disambiguation)#Songs; see Brown Sugar (D'Angelo song). 162 etc. (talk) 17:37, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Brown sugar (disambiguation)#Songs as {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. I'm usually one to err on the side of discussion, but the fix is so obvious here it's a perfect case for a WP:BOLD retarget. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:20, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That said, perhaps there is a case to be made that the Rolling Stones song is primary, but that in that case, it should really be moved to the partially disambiguated title rather than having it redirect there. (Analogous to Thriller (album) being at a partially disambiguated title.) It could even be that the song is the primary topic for the proper noun in general (WP:DIFFCAPS) but that's best decided via a WP:RM. Mdewman6 (talk) 22:31, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to DAB, the Rolling Stones song has 5,594 views compared with 493[[1]] views for the D'Angelo song which probably isn't enough for a PADB and there are other songs without articles as well. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:27, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:42, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Granola eaters → Hippie  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Seems to be some type of nickname or slang term referring to hippies, but is not mentioned at target article. I therefore suggest deletion, unless someone adds a mention or suggests a better target than the current one. CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:46, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and add paragraph of modern definitions for that and Crunchy (lifestyle). https://www.seattlepi.com/lifestyle/food/article/Granola-sheds-its-hippie-air-for-modern-flair-896155.php Another option is to start a separate page for crunchy/granola lifestyle. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:12, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment not necessarily opposed to keeping if this specific phrase can be shown to be primarly associated with hippies, but obviously they are not the only people who eat granola, and it can be associated with other lifestyles/activities, e.g. see Ultralight_backpacking#Food. We could even consider retargeting simply to Granola as it describes situations in which it is eaten. Not also the singular Granola eater does not exist. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. No mention anywhere in Enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Spaghetti eaters and Snail eaters aren't redirects for Italians and French, respectively. Not sure why this redirect should stay. MightyArms (talk) 01:56, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 07:55, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Asbestos/Asbestosis → Asbestos  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Classic WP:XY - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 07:00, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:21, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Asbestosis being a separate article. Steel1943 (talk) 20:42, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:05, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: This is all a bit odd to me. It seems to be from just the start of the era where article space subpages became against wikipedia policy; however, this page has no history to it. With that said, WP:RK#4 doesn't seem to apply here as this was never a true subpage. Delete as an WP:XY issue. TartarTorte 16:01, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  “/“ is usually used as an alternative of “and”. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 02:36, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Classic WP:XY issue. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 02:34, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. As an unopposed deletion nomination. Jay 💬 07:49, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Night on Broecken → Night on Bröcken  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This Eubot redirect needs to be kicked off the charts as well-as Metal Umlaut says, [the name] Brocken is not spelled with an umlaut. Why do we still need this? Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 06:12, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. As an unopposed deletion nomination. The base title mentioned is Maego de Oz and Nyttend's explanation was "G6: created by a mis-programmed bot". Jay 💬 07:44, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Maego de Oz (album) → Mägo de Oz (album)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Maego de Oz (La Bruja) → Mägo de Oz (La Bruja)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

In May 2017, the base title was deleted for being a mistakenly created Eubot redirect as Nyttend explained. For the same reason, these two should also be booted offstage. Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 05:47, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of English cricket people to 1787. If anyone can determine an appropriate anchor to target this redirect, by all means feel free to do so. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 18:36, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Thomas Chambers (cricket patron) → Middlesex county cricket teams  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. There was a separate article on this person, deleted 2010, that can be seen here: en.everybodywiki.com/Thomas_Chambers_(English_cricketer) (blacklisted site, so no working link), but as is, this is a WP:ASTONISH. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MB (talk • contribs) 05:30, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep but change target to List of English cricket people to 1787, per comments below. See Middlesex county cricket teams#18th century, expanded just now. I should have checked this when I created the redirect. There is nothing like enough coverage of Chambers in sources to justify a personal article but the match in 1731 was a milestone event in cricket history so he should have a redirect to help readers find information about the match which was already covered in History of English cricket (1726–1750). Chambers is also included in List of English cricket people to 1787, using this redirect. BcJvs | talk UTC 11:42, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep or change redirect to List of English cricket people to 1787 The redirect should be kept, but I'm easy on the target of the redirect. Obviously mentioned in the current redirect now following expansion, but perhaps the other location is a better target. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 20:30, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I'm also easy on the target and it would be in keeping with WP:ATD convention, as such, to redirect it to List of English cricket people to 1787. BcJvs | talk UTC 10:09, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Here's the AfD discussion. He seems to have sponsored a team that played, checks notes, two, yes, two, matches in a single year. He's non-notable. The search term is so unlikely and there's really obvious shenanigans going on here that are now getting disruptive at a level that's really unhelpful. This shouldn't be a redirect - delete. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:36, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AFD does not disqualify a subject from redirection. In fact, WP:ATD-R is one of the main options available under WP:ATD. The principle has applied to countless biographies of cricketers who were known for only one or two matches which did not have the historical significance of the second one involving Chambers. BcJvs | talk UTC 10:09, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep or change redirect to List of English cricket people to 1787 the redirect was, and still is, a valid WP:ATD, as he's mentioned at both of these articles, and mentioned in passing in some sources (which is enough for somebody to jump onto Wikipedia and try searching his name here, in my opinion). Joseph2302 (talk) 12:33, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to List of English cricket people to 1787 and remove the circular redirect. Notability as a concern could be relevant to the target, but not the redirect. Jay 💬 12:49, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Lists of traffic collisions. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:27, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• List of car crashes → List of traffic collisions (before 2000)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• List of road accidents → List of traffic collisions (before 2000)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is also List of traffic collisions (2000–present), this shouldn't arbitrarily target one. MB 05:13, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to a theoretical List of traffic collisions disambiguation page; otherwise delete. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contribs)} 09:02, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Lists of traffic collisions which I've just created and where I've boldly retargetted List of traffic collisions. Thryduulf (talk) 11:18, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per Thryduulf. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:35, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget this and List of road accidents (which I'm adding here) to Lists of traffic collisions, which is a much better target than the current one, covering all road accidents as opposed to just those before 2000. Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 15:38, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 07:31, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Maze bean → Mitochondrion  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This seems to be a meme or joke - the inside of a Mitochondrion looks like a maze. Not mentioned in article. Delete. MB 05:07, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Just a current igram meme - --R. S. Shaw (talk) 06:18, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, served its purpose. Arlo James Barnes 07:30, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 08:27, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Jon (singer) → Jon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Nic (singer) → Nic  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Delete as not useful. Jon (singer) redirects to a list of people with the given name Jon. There are some singers in the list, but since it is alphabetical, this doesn't help find any that are singers. Nic (singer) is similar, but the target list has a section with two singers out of twenty people, so same reasoning applies. MB 04:50, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep both as {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 18:28, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:MONONYM, unless someone identifies singers who are known mononymously as Jon or Nic. - Eureka Lott 21:46, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete both No signers known monymously by these names.—Bagumba (talk) 08:42, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and per above, no mononymous singers. Of course they are incomplete disambiguations, but there is no singer section at the targets to be useful as redirect targets. Jay 💬 07:28, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 07:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Flag of Statesville → Statesville, North Carolina  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect should be deleted as per WP:RFD#DELETE #4, as this is a holdover from an attempt by User:Skivkanska to spam various articles on towns in Western North Carolina with fake municipal flags. Their contributions are nothing but reverted attempts to do this, while supplying either no sources or ones which do not at all support their assertions. They created this article to promote their fake flag schemes, and it was redirected after the subject was determined to lack notability. Problem is, this actually lacks existence. It does not appear Statesville has any municipal flag or has ever had one, based off my research. Indy beetle (talk) 04:26, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Looking at the creator's contributions it seems that this is some kind of hoax. See also a deletion discussion at commons of the flags: [2]. A7V2 (talk) 22:58, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:25, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Dr. Nani Perez → Hernando Perez  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Target does not mention any medical degrees or why the honorific. His FB page shows he's Doctor of Laws Honoris causa, but not sure if that warrants adding a Dr. honorific. There is no extensive use of Dr. Perez in news articles. "Dr" is an obscure and unused title at best. I have reused arguments from the RfD WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 9#Dr. Hernando B. Perez where this redirect was mentioned along with the other Dr. redirects, but not tagged. Jay 💬 02:04, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per my reasoning in the last RfD --Lenticel ^(talk) 02:59, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 20:53, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Monkeyland → List of fictional countries  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:29, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Wasn't mentioned at the page when the redirect was created either. See Old revision of List of fictional countries. TartarTorte 17:52, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Script of the Bridge? Sojourner in the earth (talk) 10:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  If we do, we might need to add a hatnote to Monkeyland Primate Sanctuary-the term could also refer to that. Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 22:48, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Disambiguate 1) sanctuary 2) song to Script of the bridge album 3) album by Omar & the Howlers 4) exhibit at Guadalajara Zoo. 5) Monkeyland Records label for Submarine Submarine discography. PTM for Monkey Land Up the Barito River reel by Frederick Burlingham. Other potential entries: author Al Case's Monkeyland series or Natural History by Neil Cross. MonkeyLand board game by Reiner Knizia. [3] Monkeyland as mentioned in Ko Pha-ngan, Thailand appears to be a hotel there. PTM: Jubilee in Monkeyland as listed in Rang Tang PTM "In Monkey Land" lyrics by Jack Drislane Music by Theodore Morse [4] Sándor Weöres poem majomország translates to Monkeyland [5] [6] AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 04:33, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• DAB per AngusW's suggestions. 193.37.240.169 (talk) 13:50, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Disambiguate per AngusWOOF. A7V2 (talk) 03:42, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambiguate per Angus. There are a bunch of things this title can refer to (including some fictional countries that are not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia), so it's more appropriate to list them on the page than to redirect it to a specific item (I originally thought the sanctuary would be a better target but now that I think about it there's a bunch of other stuff it could refer to, and I'm not sure there's really a primary topic). Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 04:04, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Dabify per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:10, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Attempted a dab draft at the redirect. Did not find an article for author Al Case. Jay 💬 01:51, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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