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The result of the discussion was delete. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 20:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Ferruginous Hawk, → Ferruginous hawk  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redirect with only a comma at the end; previously refused R3 Leonidlednev (T, C, L) 16:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

delete per nom. seems the redirect may have been misread by the admin when refusing speedy deletion, which is kind of funny, cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:48, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, per nom and cosgan. Even without the capitalization, hurting things here, the comma at the end, makes this redirect implausible. Regards, SONIC678, 23:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:10, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete it was only created last month and has always been a redirect and should IMO have been deleted as R3 but anyway WP:UNNATURAL applies. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to A (disambiguation). wbm1058 (talk) 18:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• A? → Aalto University  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in article. Edit summary for creation says "look at the logo" but the logo is "A!" mwwv ^converse∫_edits 17:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. The old logo when the redir was created in 2022 was "A?", as still shown on it's page in Finnish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zinderboff (talk • contribs) 18:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• delete as vague, regardless of previous logos. seemingly not well-covered enough to warrant keeping, very unlikely that it's the primary topic for a common letter followed by one of two common punctuation marks. also, come on, there's no apostrophe in "its" cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Cogsan. In addition, this could plausibly be a phonetic misspelling of Eh?. Steel1943 (talk) 19:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to A (disambiguation), and itemize there (the university can be listed with 'A?', 'A!', 'A"' (A-double-quote) logo variants; other uses of "A?" can also be listed -- 64.229.88.34 (talk) 21:09, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Don't delete — valid search term based on the university logo, but still vague. So leaning towards retargetting to the DAB page. Cremastra (talk) 21:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• NOTE A! has also been nominated at RfD -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:15, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ‌History of Jats → History of Jats  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete the relic after moving to garbage-free name (initial U+200C - ZWNJ). (Not sure if there even is a "R from …" temporary template for similar bad redirs.) —Mykhal (talk) 12:54, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To translate that nomination rationale: The initial character of this redirect is not "H" but a zero-width non-joiner non-printing character. Thryduulf (talk) 14:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment the redirect was at this title for six days from creation until about 25 minutes before this nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 14:37, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - 6 days is short enough that this shouldn't create link rot. Presumably created in error (assuming good faith), so let's clean it up. In the unlikely possibility others disagree and !vote keep, then we should at least retarget it to Jats#History to avoid the double redirect... but I think we'll be deleting this one. Fieari (talk) 01:30, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‌delete per nom‌. i don't think anyone would ever willingly type a zwnj in the search function expecting anything besides‌ zwnj itself, and it doesn't seem like anyone has linked to it by accident or otherwise in those 6 days, so‌...‌‌ cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 11:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Code word. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 20:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Code phrase → Euphemism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

vague? could refer to passwords or code words, for starters cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to code word (figure of speech) appears right, with a hatnote to passphrase. Euphemism is way too broad to serve as target. Paradoctor (talk) 21:17, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Per Paradoctor, "euphemisim" is too broad and imprecise; code word (a disambiguation page) seems to cover all the options here, and is my preferred new target, rather than trying to cover contingencies with hatnotes. "Hooray, hooray, for the spinster's sister's daughter!" Cremastra (talk) 17:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Retarget to Code word (figure of speech). The code word disambiguation page actually doesn't have any targets besides this one that fit a code phrase... the other links have to do with the exact match of "code word", like boardgames and puzzles by that name. While the DAB page does have this link, I don't see any reason to send our searcher there. Fieari (talk) 05:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to the code word dab, as it has the passcode, access code meanings that Code word (figure of speech) doesn't. Jay 💬 09:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per Jay. 1234qwer1234qwer4 16:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Retarget to Code word. --BDD (talk) 17:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) feminist🩸 (talk) 05:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Stray (film) → Stray#Film  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I just made this edit to Stray regarding the subject mentioned at Stray (video game)#Film adaptation. However, it seems this subject may be the only film subject on Wikipedia titled just "Stray" without "A" or "The" before it, or the plural version "Strays". (See the redirect's current target for more details). For this reason, I am bringing up this discussion to see if my initial thought is a better option that the alternative I implemented: retarget to Stray (video game)#Film adaptation and then add a hatnote there referring back to Stray#Film in the case of ambiguity. Also note the existence of Draft:Stray (film), a draft about the subject mentioned in Stray (video game)#Film adaptation. Steel1943 (talk) 23:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose The Stray (film) is a separate article unlike the film here and per WP:SMALLDETAILS "The Stray" is a variant of "Stray" so the absence likely doesn't distingish. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:47, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep - I don't think the upcoming new film warrants being the WP:PTOPIC (yet), so the DAB should be the target. The new film is located at the DAB, so no worries there. Fieari (talk) 03:05, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Fieari. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:01, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. I've restored the section, including the Australian entry, which although that wasn't removed by the IP vandal (currently under a long-term "school block") their action may have had a prejudicial effect on the Australian sub-section as well. wbm1058 (talk) 21:16, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Reports of black cougars in the United States → Black panther#Reports of "black panthers" in the United States  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Reports of black cougars in the United States of America → Black panther#Reports of "black panthers" in the United States  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Reports of black cougars in the US → Black panther#Reports of "black panthers" in the United States  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Reports of black cougars in the USA → Black panther#Reports of "black panthers" in the United States  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Reports of black panthers in Australia → Black panther#Reports of black panthers in Australia  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. Only mention of something resembling this on the English Wikipedia that I could find is Piney_Woods#Folklore, but I'm not sure if this is the only thing a reader could be looking for (and that only applies to the USA redirects). 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• 1234qwer1234qwer4, apparently the former was essentially blanked by a vandal back in 2012, and never restored. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:52, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Nice catch, @Qwerfjkl. Apparently the section on cougars (cf. Black cougar) was also recently unilaterally removed by @BhagyaMani, who might want to comment here. 1234qwer1234qwer4 12:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I was just playing around with w:de:Benutzer:Schnark/js/artikel-statistik on the article and happened to notice it. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Yes, I did. At the time, I did not find any WP:RS about black cougar being called black panther, nor any better source than the one referenced in this section stating that there is no authenticated record. BhagyaMani (talk) 18:08, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  BhagyaMani, not particularly reliable, but there's https://fishgame.com/2020/01/black-cougars-dont-exist/ which suggests there is some mix-up here. The section seems to be about actual black cougars, rather than the misidentification of black panthers as such. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:56, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and restore the section. --Un assiolo (talk) 11:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Enwiki has nothing about reports of black cougars in the United States. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deleting this Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas redirect, consistent with Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 25#Lance Wilson and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 25#T Bone Mendez. In this case, Jimmy Hernandez is not even mentioned in the bio of the voice actor who apparently portrays the character, Armando Riesco. But, as with the other characters, feel free to create a redirect to any article where the character is mentioned, and if that proves controversial we can revisit this at RfD. wbm1058 (talk) 10:01, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Jimmy Hernandez → Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas#Characters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target, though does occur at Community_Resources_Against_Street_Hoodlums#In_popular_culture and Carl_Johnson_(Grand_Theft_Auto)#Return_to_Los_Santos. There is an unrelated person at African_diaspora_in_Finland#Sportspeople and another one at Omar_Rodríguez-López#Startled_Calf_(1991–1992), however, so I'm not sure this redirect is appropriate without further disambiguation. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep for now pending the outcome of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#List of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas characters. If the list is restored, redirect there. Otherwise re-nominate, preferably all of these characters in a single nomination. --Un assiolo (talk) 11:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment @Un assiolo: and others, the linked rfd was closed as delete. Thryduulf (talk) 14:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Un assiolo did make the renominate statement in multiple RfDs, but struck them in favour of delete. Jay 💬 09:54, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Common name, Delete to favour search results. Jay 💬 09:54, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Back of Beyond. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 20:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Back O' Beyond → Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

We don't seem to have content on this fictional location, and all search result on Wikipedia are passing mentions (of unrelated topics). 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:06, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I think we need a Back of beyond disambiguation page, linking to wikt:Back of beyond, Back of Beyond, The Back of Beyond, several mentions (a Caribbean film, a play), and similar terms like Boondocks, Black stump, Woop Woop. This would redirect there if there is enough to merit a dab entry. Thryduulf (talk) 12:03, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to a new disambiguation page per Thryduulf -- 64.229.88.34 (talk) 23:11, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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We could just build the disambiguation page at this location, and then move it to the proposed location by Thryduulf -- 64.229.88.34 (talk) 02:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you volunteering to do this, 64.229.88.34? Please get started. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:45, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Retarget to new disambiguation page at Back of Beyond, the film having been moved to Back of Beyond (film), and to which Back of beyond now redirects. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:55, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • For clarity (as I misread it) Back of beyond now redirects to the disambiguation page that has been created at Back of Beyond, not to the film. Thryduulf (talk) 13:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to the dab at Back of Beyond that Shhhnotsoloud has created per my earlier comments. Thryduulf (talk) 13:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Jay 💬 17:12, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Darklighter → Garrick Hagon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Has some contention over the target of this redirect - whether to redirect to the fictional concept in Charmed (TV series) or one of the Star Wars characters (Biggs Darklighter or apparently his actor). I just moved some history to Darklighter (Charmed) which has some links. No strong opinion on final outcome. Izno (talk) 17:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambiguate Biggs Darklighter should lead to List of Star Wars characters#Biggs Darklighter ;; there also being Gavin Darklighter , Empire Volume 2: Darklighter ;; SEEALSO ;; a see also for ;: Dark Light (disambiguation) ;; there also being "dark lighting" or Low-key lighting ;; there also being a "dark highlighter" in makeup ;; there also being dark lightning -- 64.229.88.34 (talk) 04:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Disambiguate as there isn't a clear primary topic. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:06, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• UTRS → Wikipedia:Unblock Ticket Request System  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Potentially confusing WP:XNR; this is mentioned in GSM-R and in RMMV HX range of tactical trucks as an abbreviation for something else. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:14, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• disambiguate -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambiguate with a link to Wikipedia:Unblock Ticket Request System included. If someone needs UTRS, there's no reason to make it harder to find. Skynxnex (talk) 14:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambig, including a {{self-reference}} per Skynxnex. Thryduulf (talk) 14:48, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambig as others have said.--v/r - TP 00:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 00:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Summary style → Wikipedia:Summary style  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This seems like a plausible generic search and an unhelpful WP:XNR. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:04, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete non-reader content redirect outside of articlespace; this could refer to how to style a precis or brief -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete potentially confusing WP:CNR that could, theoretically, be expanded into a mainspace article, so WP:REDYES applies. Fieari (talk) 07:20, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Summary news style redirects to Inverted pyramid (journalism), I've not found any other uses but searches are overwhelmed by maintenance templates and excluding them may have resulted in excluding encyclopaedic uses too. Thryduulf (talk) 14:54, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete not a Wikipedia specific term though after the AL Overview the target and redirect show up in Google none of the other results are for the target. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:53, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this unnecessary cross-namespace redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:18, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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