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Bmusique99

11 December 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

Repeatedly removing speedy deletion tags on the article on B major (person), which Bmusique99 had been repeatedly creating yesterday by hijacking another page. Both edit from mobile devices. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:47, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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28 December 2020

Suspected sockpuppets

more B Major (CPT) spam. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 12:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Quinton Daniels has been blocked. I can't see the deleted contribs from other account, but if it is the same on the DUCK test should suffice. Pahunkat (talk) 11:33, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
See filter log of Wesley Cavernelis, a SPA by the looks of things. Pahunkat (talk) 11:38, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bmusique -> musician B Major = real name Bjorn Martin, get it? These three users in success have had, in the past month, a mutual drive to get the name of a particular music producer onto Wikipedia, with articles produced under a multiplicity of disambiguating titles. Bmusique99 and Quinton Daniels are now blocked. MasterKP19 is new, and kicked right off by replacing the content of Bjorn Basson with the same article about the A7-worthy Bjorn Martin/B Major; and then moved a draft with the same content into article space under the title B Major (Music Producer), which has been used before by the Quinton Daniels account. Largoplazo (talk) 23:41, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that sock drawer was larger than I expected... Pahunkat (talk) 17:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Also found and  Confirmed:
TheWikiG99 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Chengapano (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
YungLAK (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
JodyOla (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
GoingCrazyCPT (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
MichaelPMartin (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
GodofEdit2020 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
All socks will be bagged and tagged. This SPI can be closed... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

24 January 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Created Draft:B Major (Bjorn Martin). Given the amount of previous socking requesting CU. S0091 (talk) 20:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Plainly the same person (not merely a person with a COI, as this user has asserted) given the same approach of creating numerous copies of the same article in short succession:
Largoplazo (talk) 20:50, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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12 February 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Same MO as other socks, created B Major SA. I've blocked but would appreciate a CU. — The Earwig ⟨talk⟩ 17:00, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Again? For some reason they don't understand that they will not get an article if they aren't notable, despite guidance being written to them by a number of editors. Thanks for blocking, deleting and salting Earwig :-) Pahunkat (talk) 17:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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11 March 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Creating more B Major drafts: Draft:B Major (South African Musician). – Thjarkur (talk) 22:23, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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23 March 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

More spam at Draft talk:The B Major SA Pahunkat (talk) 17:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Bagging and tagging sock account. This SPI can be closed. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:35, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

22 April 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Yet another Bjorn Martin recreation at User:MentionMe47/sandbox. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:07, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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23 August 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

This time at B Major (The Music Producer). Sleeper account - was created in April but only became active this month, thus the CU request for a sleeper check. Pahunkat (talk) 15:00, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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27 December 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

WP:DUCK because of B Major (record producer), which overlaps with all previous socks and, if memory serves me, the content is substantially similar. This account popped up not long after the previous sock was blocked. Ideally, it would be best to CU but I appreciate that the other socks might be stale. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:47, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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This account is a sleeper, created in 2017 (older than this master) and only resuming editing in October 2021. They are not editing solely about B Major either. Possibly a separate UPE (which in itself is also blockable)? Pahunkat (talk) 22:15, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you're right. I missed that one 2017 edit that they did. This is very, very odd - I'm not sure what to make of it. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 17:13, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • There was enough here to justify running a check on Motlatlaneo and comparing to some hints that were available in the CU logs from previous investigations. Based on that, I'd say Motlatlaneo is  Possible to Bmusique99, but  Inconclusive might be a better call. I'm not seeing enough in the behavioral evidence to convince me they're a sock and in fact I see a few patterns in they style of writing which is different from accounts in the archive. Closing with no action taken.
PS, given some 'gram and FB links on previous versions of their user page, it's likely the Motlatlaneo account is self-promotional. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:46, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

02 January 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

This account was created a day after B Major (record producer) was sent to AfD and within two days had found their way to the AfD was already defending the article. Also some other behavioural factors:

Possibly a sock of the creator Motlatlaneo, but they don't use the mobile editor unlike Motlatlaneo so filing here. Since the behavioural evidence is probably not block-worthy in itself, requesting CU. Pahunkat (talk) 14:46, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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18 February 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

It's been over a year since the rash of socks that churned out articles and drafts about the South African musician B Major under a plethora of titles, and this submission is rather speculative, but perhaps at least a checkuser is in order (if checkusers are possible for comparing registered accounts that are over a year apart).

  • The previous proliferation of articles and drafts about the musician B Major by a flurry of sockpuppets makes this worthy of examination.
  • I knew about it because the creation by this user of Draft:B Major (Bjorn Martin) came up in my watchlist. That it's in my watchlist flagged for me that a draft had appeared under this title before. It's possible for there to be people who'd use a disambiguator to provide the artist's real name in place of a conventional disambiguator such as "(musician)" or "(South African producer)", but it could be a sign that it's the same person, or at that person's behest.
  • The user made 10 edits (OK, 11) and then dived right into this article in article space, from where it was moved to Draft a day later, so this appears to be the user's intent.
  • The user's name has "master" in it, similar to other sock names Scoutmaestro, MasterKP19, and USAmaster55, though I grant that "master" appears frequently in names from the rap/hip-hop/funk world.
  • As in past incarnations, fully half the article is about a tiff between B Major and YoungstaCPT. I'm curious as to whether it's the same content as in earlier iterations (which would be a dead give-away that this is a sockpuppet). This author has also added a corresponding "Controversy" section about the feud to the YoungstaCPT article. Largoplazo (talk) 21:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Following up, Hammersoft's observation that there is similarity with previously deleted versions is of concern. I'm starting to think now that without that, it may not be all the clear that this is a sockpuppet, based on the comments on Defunkedmaster's user page, and the user's having created other drafts in the same genre that have to relation to B Major and having made some edits in other articles. I was right to flag this account for attention, but based on what I, in contrast to an admin, can see, it isn't quite ducky. Largoplazo (talk) 14:19, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I know this has been wrapped up, but one final nail in case sockpuppetry is denied or another alias emerges: I was just reading Bjorn Martin's autobiography and discovered that he is "The Founder/CEO of the Defunked House Label “Soulistic View Records”. The same appears on his YouTube channel. That makes him the Defunked Master, correct? Largoplazo (talk) 02:22, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for bringing this to my attention guys, I have thoroughly gone through the sockpuppet history and saw that this article was tried to be created multiple times and failed. If I knew that this article was salted I wouldn't have published it to the live space in the first place. instead to keep it in the draft for when the time is right. I would never attempt to vandalize the encyclopedia because its the place I also come too for reliable and verifiable information. All my contributions and future contributions will be that of value to the encyclopedia, with the main focus of keeping Wiki a trusted source to always fall back on when one needs information about something or someone. I wouldn't want my account to be blocked because of this article although I took my time researching the information before publishing, its strange that I never came across a warning stating the name I'm creating is a salted for socking, I would've avoided this publish and continued with my other articles. Kind regards Defunkedmaster (talk) 18:35, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Defunkedmaster my best advice to you is to forgo anything to do with B Major and pursue your other Wikipedia interests, if any. S0091 (talk) 19:38, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Behavior matches prior incarnations. I've salted B Major (Bjorn Martin) against recreation. This editor is at this point a LTA. See also User:Hammersoft/adminlog#TempAnchor entries for variations on this theme. --Hammersoft (talk) 23:11, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Largoplazo: There's considerable similarity among deleted revisions. Even with out that, it's very obviously WP:DUCK. --Hammersoft (talk) 02:30, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Largoplazo; I'll let the checkuser handle this. I don't disagree with what you're saying. I just have a different perspective. I'm conscious of that, which is why I haven't immediately blocked, though I think there's plenty of evidence to do so. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:47, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've dug in to this a bit once I noticed the extensive history around Draft:B Major (Bjorn Martin) - my draftification of a really poorly sourced article slipped past admin edit protection on accident. I would note that this diatribe from the most recent sock (StephenWilliams021) is pretty similar to the circular nonsense here. Most of the sourcing, some of it pretty obscure, is the same as well. This looks like a duck to me as well. While the CU data is stale, I see some mentions of CU notes in prior blocks, so maybe that will help. I'm certainly disengaging from discussions with him for now: too much smoke. Sam Kuru (talk) 14:56, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Of related interest; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/B Major (record producer) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/B Major (Music Producer). --Hammersoft (talk) 15:56, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dreamy Jazz: pinging you as you have the most recent experience with this investigation. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:20, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

20 March 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

Sweettooth031 created account 12 March, waited a week, made a dozen edits, then today created DJ Ready D in a single edit. A few hours later they then set to work on latest spelling of their usual article, B major SA (musical artist). Still spammy and poorly sourced. 2A01:4C8:49:B2A2:24B2:C0FF:FE90:5410 (talk) 01:35, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:DUCK rampantly applies. I've deleted the two articles they created at DJ Ready D and B major SA (musical artist) under WP:G5, salting the latter as it has repeatedly been recreated under many names. I've undone most of their other edits under WP:BLOCKEVASION. Awaiting checkuser to bag and tag. --Hammersoft (talk) 02:40, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dreamy Jazz: Here's another one for you. --Hammersoft (talk) 02:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bagged and tagged as suspected based on CU evidence. We can close and archive this one. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:00, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09 February 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

Literally admits to being a sockpuppet, recreated B Major (musician) for the umpteenth time, voted keep in a previous AfD. Requesting CU to see if there are any sleepers Mach61 (talk) 19:08, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • These are  Confirmed:

17 April 2024

Suspected sockpuppets


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16 June 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

Another draft of Bjorn Martin the South African musician. I can't view the previous iteration of the draft from Nov 2023 to look at similarities, the best I have is this one from March 2023 to which the only similarity is having a promotional, story-like tone. So CU to check if this is a sock or unrelated UPE. Pahunkat (talk) 14:55, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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25 July 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

See Draft:B Major SA. Pretty blatant attempt, yet again, to create an article on this person. They just don't give up. More evidence available if need be; contact me. --Hammersoft (talk) 03:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Confirmed. Also
LuvkyStar (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
WikiWatcherPro (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). Blocking etc. Girth Summit (blether) 11:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

28 July 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

The user has created simple:B Major SA (simple:special:redirect/logid/2777661), and B Major SA is already deleted from enwiki per CSD G5. MathXplore (talk) 14:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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18 September 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

Previously reported with no edits to enwiki, now here writing about the same musician at B major SA. Farmed AC by adding shortdescs, similar to cu-confirmed BetoTheDJ ([8] [9] vs [10] [11]). CU to check for others/keep trail alive. Pahunkat (talk) 17:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Clearly yet another sockpuppet account. This person's been at it for 3.5 years now. They created B major SA, pester various people to review it, and as soon as it is they disappear. They haven't edited for over a month now. Similar plastering of "sources" to Apple Music, previously done on other iterations of this. WP:DUCK applies, because the whole flock is quacking. Checkuser confirmation please, for tagging purposes. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • The following accounts are  Confirmed to each other:
PhilKnight (talk) 14:56, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]