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The result was speedy keep. (non-admin closure) Anarchyte (work | talk) 02:41, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As the Deer

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A9 declined for no reason. No reliable sourcing found. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:40, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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of course not, User:TenPoundHammer, but in discussing articles for deletion, the discussion is not about whether the article contains sufficient sourcing. The discussion is rather, about whether significant sourcing exists that the subject matter can be considered notable.Jacona (talk) 17:08, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
rephrasing slightly, it's not "Is this article good?", but "Is this subject notable?"Jacona (talk) 17:11, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The nominator still doesn't realize after all his years here that WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. He is to be applauded for his enduring cluelessness. It's actually something of an achievement, because you think he'd soak it up by sheer osmosis, if left long enough. But no. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:13, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What I really hate is the endless cycle: Someone nominates an article, someone else posts a bunch of sources, yet no one ever gets around to adding the sources to the article, so five years later, the article is still an unsourced nanostub because everyone is always expecting everyone else to do it. Don't bother digging up the fucking sources and saying "keep" unless you're going to add them yourself. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:26, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, okay, that I can at least understand. But you don't seem to get, after all your years here, that it's a waste of time bringing articles to Afd if you can readily tell by doing your WP:BEFORE work that the thing is in all likelihood going to be found to be notable. And that no amount of complaining about it at AFD or badgering people is going to change basic policy. So this clearly isn't working as a strategy. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:36, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So User:TenPoundHammer, I'm so sorry to be the awful person who looks up sources and doesn't immediately drop everything and update the article you didn't bother to look up sources for and just nominated for deletion. I admit, there are many issues on Wikipedia that I am aware of, but I have not fixed. Sorry about that! Jacona (talk) 19:16, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@TenPoundHammer: is this your policy on all AfD nominations??? In ictu oculi (talk) 18:47, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  06:53, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Denodo

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One very specialized 2009 award is not enough for notability. DGG ( talk ) 22:59, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, thank for your help and feedback. the content of the page is now edited, simplified and added a couple of references that provides further information.

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The result was delete. SarahSV (talk) 22:15, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Stephan Kallee

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Non-notable person. Despite citing 8 sources that I can access, 6 of those 8 are not independent, and the other 2 are about his father, not him. Article is already nominated for deletion on the German Wikipedia. A Google search does not turn up any obvious sources to add. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 22:11, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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— Note to closing admin: NearEMPTiness (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.
Cite in GS are far below the large number of hundreds expected for this field. Xxanthippe (talk) 02:11, 14 December 2016 (UTC).[reply]
  • It is apparently difficult, to get a discussion running. In the field of friction stir welding, hundreds of secondary citations are actually very unusual (apart from citations of patents and books) and projects with more than 10 Mio € are unheard of. If this article was deleted, it would confirm my perception that engineers are seen to be less notable than chefs and sportsmen, because the notability criteria are arguably fulfilled, as mentioned above. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 18:17, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I just realized that "a major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject." Anyway, the NACADEMIC criteria require "as demonstrated by independent reliable sources". If there are no mentions of the subject in articles that are not WP:Trivial mentions, then I do not believe it is demonstrated by independent reliable sources, even if some of the subject's papers have been cited by other papers. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 19:59, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. No policy based reasons for deletion. If there are inaccuracies, they can be fixed by editing. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 17:31, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Church of the Sacred Heart, Singapore

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Request by the Parish Priest... OTRS2016022510001865 ... Our church serves about 3000 parishioners every weekend, the misinformation and inaccuracies that the writer had insisted to put in despite our editing efforts, has brought about confusion to our visitors. The inaccuracies on the services that our provides also cause undue inconveniences to our day-to-day running.

The first para of the article reads: "The Church of the Sacred Heart (Chinese: 圣心堂) is a Roman Catholic church in Singapore. It was founded in 1910 by the Society of Saint Vincent de Paul, and is one of the oldest parishes in the Archdiocese. "

Our church is NOT founded by the Society of Saint Vincent de Paul. In fact, the Society of Saint Vincent de Paul was founded in Singapore only in 1951.

Under the section titled "Present" were these three paragraphs:

"On the first Sunday of each month, the Church's cafeteria gives out free food to the parishioners. This day is referred to by parishioners as agape (ἀγάπη), a Greek word defined in the English language as "love" or "charity", which is one of the three Theological virtues. There is also sometimes a band which plays country music.

Every weekend Mass, except for the Masses conducted in the first week of each month, there is a second collection for the Church Community Building Fund, on top of the collection of alms, which goes towards the monetary foundation of the community building. Every first Sunday of each month, the church money collected from the second collection goes towards the Society of St Vincent De Paul.

Recently, the church began serving meals to the poor daily, as part of a programme entitled DOULOS (δοῦλος), which means "servant" in Greek. Those who go to the church for food are also each given a loaf of bread after their meals. The location at which the religious bookshop used to be also has two beds to allow for the administration of ChineseAcupuncture, as the majority of the poor who visit the church are elderly and suffer from body pains. The bookshop has since relocated to the Community Building."


These three paragraphs are not accurate. Presently, we do not give out free food to parishioners, there is no band that plays music. We do not have a second collection for the Church Community Building Fund at every weekend Mass. In addition, we do not serve meals to the poor daily. The programme "Doulos" was discontinued in December 2014. There is also no Chinese Acupuncture services in the Church.

Under the section titled "Masses and Services"

The timing the writer has insisted on are not updated timing. This cause frustration to visitors who want to come in time for services only to realise the times given are wrong.


As you can see, these misinformation and inaccuracies which the writer had put in causes confusion and even distress in some cases. Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:36, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment: Some of the items above may have changed a bit - the priest was a very long time coming back to me to authorise the use of an e-mail, as a "reason". As a totally unsourced article, I personally see little benefit in keeping, unless someone wants to adopt the page and do a proper job. Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:43, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment: User:Fr Stephen Yim attempted to make multiple edits to this page in February, with the notation of "correcting several inaccuries"; these were promptly reverted by another, User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao, with no explanation. Given the latter's industrious history on WP, and assuming the former really is the minister for this church - a presumption bolstered by the fact this is the only article ever edited by the user - the reverts likely were in error. Either the article needs deleted due to lack of verified sources, or the February edits restored. Jtrevor99 (talk) 20:17, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you will please note, I am not the first to have reverted his edits. Two other editors did so before me. The information which I reverted was unsourced and not well formatted; I saw it as no improvement over what was there before. As to whether or not to keep the article, I make no judgment at this time. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:00, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
While it is true that the information you reverted was unsourced, the information you reverted back to also was unsourced. So, while unsourced information normally is a reason for reversion, in this case I do not think it is. As for formatting: I would consider (presumably) accurate information that is poorly formatted to be superior to well-formatted, (presumably) inaccurate information. Of course, without sourcing in either version of the article, it is not possible to establish what is factual here. Jtrevor99 (talk) 13:59, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep The church is notable. But the information is unsourced and I understand that. I will clean it up later. This is a major problem with many article in Singapore - a lot of content but no citations. In addition, please inform the editors to discuss issues on the talk page. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 02:54, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Clearly notable church. If there are inaccuracies then the parish priest would be better off editing the article than requesting its deletion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:38, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- If there are errors, the answer is to correct them, not to delete the article. Being the first Chinese Catholic Church may be sufficient to make it notable, but my initial reaction was that it was yet another local church, most of which are routinely declared NN: I wish it was otherwise. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:22, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I note with some concern that there is List of Roman Catholic churches in Singapore with about 1/2 bluelinks, and 1/2 redlinks calling for creation of new articles on marginal or non-notable churches. It would be better to develop the list article...make a table with photos and descriptions and such...and to redirect all the redlinks to the list-article row on each of those churches. It would be an option to merge/redirect this article to that list-article, too.
By the way I dropped assertion in the article that it was founded by Society of Saint Vincent de Paul given the priest's assertion above, but even if the Singapore "chapter" or whatever of the organization was not founded until 1951, this church could still easily have been started as a project of the world-wide organization or one of its parts. --doncram 00:15, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: By no means a model article, by that is no criteria or reason for deletion in itself. Indeoendant, secondary sources have been identified by people above. WP:GEOFEAT shows us that it is possible for this to be notable, and sorces have been shown. All of that satisfies me that it does pass the GNG. TheMagikCow (talk) 12:14, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:51, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Doctor Insta

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Clear advertising, regardless if intended or not, because if it wasn't for the fact we know the sources and information are advertising and also republished at that; searches naturally found only the same and the past deletion last year shows the sheer blatancy of wanting to restart advertising again hence WP:NOT boldly applies. SwisterTwister talk 19:13, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I provided good number of references and most of them are from famous news resources such India Times and many more. I won't call it an advertisement but information sources altogether at Wikipedia. And yes, may be the last time the page was made, it could come under advertisement because the startup wasn't well known at the time and there were no good references from media.UsmanKhalil_Talk 19:28, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:34, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Udhayam TV (Sri Lanka)

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Unreferenced article about non-notable TV service. Created by the company themselves. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 18:52, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedily deleted due to G12. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 19:59, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Testing vs Debugging

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Everything is covered under Software testing, seems to be a part of several users creating new essay like articles today as well. Chrissymad ❯❯❯ Talk 18:31, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SarahSV (talk) 22:33, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Campaign Monitor

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I would've honestly PRODed but it's quite likely it will be restarted as advertising once again, and it's clear tihs (along with the 2012 deleted article) only exists as advertising for the company itself since that's exactly what the information and sources emulate, not only then considering the sheer PR blatancy; also, to actually specify, the NYT is in fact a 2-time minor mention part of an investing campaign so that's all there is to say about it. When an article has to so blatantly emphasize this, especially the fact of barreling the "clients" list in the first sentence, that's damning enough as it is, worse when we apply WP:NOT. SwisterTwister talk 18:18, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:50, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rachyal

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I couldn't verify its notability. Last AfD closed as no responses; sending WP:APPNOTE to Krishna Chaitanya Velaga. Boleyn (talk) 17:50, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

79.238.99.2, why are you voting to keep? How do you feel it meets WP:NOTABILITY? Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:45, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedily deleted per G12: copyvio. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 19:30, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Install/Uninstall Testing

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Wikipedia is not a how-to guide. Nomination for speedy deletion under G11 was declined by @Ks0stm:. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 17:49, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - a majority of the article is copied directly, word for word from the "references" below, which are not properly cited in the article itself. This seems to be a string of what looks like maybe a class project of some sort today... also reads like a How-to article Chrissymad ❯❯❯ Talk 18:36, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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And another one:
And with sourcing, of course. Meters (talk) 18:51, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:04, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Live at Birdland (1962 John Coltrane album)

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Not notable. This music appears to be from a bootleg recording, bits of which have been released on various albums over a period of decades; this is one of them. Searches for reliable sources return little to warrant its inclusion. Note that there are lots of albums with the same title, including an official release by the same artist. EddieHugh (talk) 17:42, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. North America1000 10:47, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Langrial clan

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I couldn't verify its notability. Boleyn (talk) 17:37, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw nomination So sorry, clicked on wrong one. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 17:38, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  06:56, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Chandral clan

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I couldn't find reliable sources to verify notability Boleyn (talk) 17:36, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 07:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Shalini Srivastav

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Non-notable person fails WP:BIO, WP:N FITINDIA (talk) 16:41, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Self Organised Learning Environment. (non-admin closure) –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 23:48, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gouri Chindarkar

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Article fails to explain why this BLP subject is notable. All coverage of her seems to be related to being inexplicably chosen for BBC's 100 Women, with a smattering of human interest-type stories. This raises obvious WP:BLP1E concerns. The WordsmithTalk to me 15:58, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Seems notable for at least two reasons - both *why* she was selected for BBC's 100 women, and *because* she was selected for that list. I don't follow the "inexplicably chosen" comment - can @The Wordsmith: explain why this is "inexplitable" please? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:54, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'll bite. The list is supposed to be the most inspiring women the BBC can find, with a theme this year of "Defiance". Chindarkar was not the first or only Indian woman to take part in this education initiative. A source I found indicated that there have been 16,000 participants, presumably a large number of them being women. Chindarkar attended one of these labs, did well, and went on to a University. It hardly seems unique or especially notable. I'll be the first to admit that I'm no expert on Indian education systems so I could be wrong on how important it is, but a reading of the available sources doesn't seem to portray her as particularly notable, other than getting her name in the Indian press and being selected for the list. The WordsmithTalk to me 00:11, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't asking for you/anyone to "bite" here. If you want to argue against the inclusion of her in BBC list, then this isn't the place to do that. If you have new sources that aren't already covered in the article, then please add them to the article! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  06:52, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Innate intelligence

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Nominated via a related AfD, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Universal_intelligence. Since all sources are chiropraxy-related, one can forget about GNG, let alone MEDRS (and the article is dangerously close to making medical claims). I suggest a very selective merge to Chiropractic#Conceptual_basis, extending a bit the summary offered in Chiropractic#Straights_and_mixers ; if your opinion is to merge, please specify its target and extent. TigraanClick here to contact me 15:29, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:34, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AliSQL

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No evidence at all of satisfying Wikipedia's notability guidelines. The sources are a couple of sites where one can download AliSQL, and a page on the web site of a business which uses features from AliSQL. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:58, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:35, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Bush Party

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I have been unable to find even one reliable, independent, published source to add to this article. —Anne Delong (talk) 14:14, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Seems like an old promotional article about a band that no one knew about Layla, the remover (talk) 15:58, 13 December 2016 (UTC) Comment Oh my God, is this an old article. How has it lived for so long? Layla, the remover (talk) 16:00, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. To be fair, this was created at a very different time in Wikipedia's history; there was a time when all it actually took to get a band's article kept was the ability to nominally verify (e.g. via their own primary source web page or a fansite) that they actually existed and weren't a total hoax — but we didn't yet know what we know now about how some people created primary source webpages to "verify" the "existence" of a hoax. WP:NMUSIC quite rightly has been tightened up a lot since then, however, and nothing here meets the standards that apply today. (To answer Layla's question, lots of old articles are lingering around that fall on the wrong side of the inclusion rules as they stand today — but they can't actually be listed for deletion until somebody notices them.) In a ProQuest search, I found zero reliable source coverage to salvage this with; the only hit I got, in fact, was referring to the generic concept of a party in the Canadian bush, not to a band named "Canadian Bush Party". And WaybackMachine appears to have archived only the front splash page and not any of the site's former content — so there isn't even any content there for us to run through the bullshit detector, such as "the band toured across Canada as an opening act for Young Canadians" or some other statement we could empirically test for verifiability. Under NMUSIC as it stands in 2016, there's just no notability here regardless of whether this was a hoax all along or just a local band that never achieved anything noteworthy — if they did exist, then it's not our role to rectify the historical undercoverage of under-the-radar bands in under-the-radar genres if we have to rely on deadlinked Geocities fansites as the "notability" because real media coverage just wasn't there, and if the Geocities fansite was bullshit all along then it's not our role to promote or aggregate hoaxes. Bearcat (talk) 18:46, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:35, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yellow Springs Aikido

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Non-notable single Aikido club. Peter Rehse (talk) 13:53, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete doesn't meet WP:ORG, reads like a a business listing/about our company section and the references are not actual references (in fact, one is a link to the google play store, what is the policy on that particularly when it has only a loose relation to the subject?) Chrissymad ❯❯❯ Talk 14:04, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There is no significant independent coverage of this school. I suspect a COI from the SPA who created this article. Papaursa (talk) 04:26, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Although the nom has withdrawn I can't really close as SK/Withdrawn due to the delete !vote present, Anyway sources have been provided which everyone' happy with so am closing as Keep (non-admin closure) –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 23:50, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ReCharge Collectible Card Game

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I can't find any sources other than retailers, doesn't seem to have been very relevant anyways. Layla, the remover (talk) 13:09, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Changing vote to Keep per the sources provided by Odie5533 below. Nice work! 64.183.45.226 (talk) 19:08, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
After doing some searching on Archive.org I am changing my recommendation to Keep. Here is a very detailed article by ICv2 on the game. Here is an advance review of the game by author and comic writer Eric J. Moreels written for the Cinescape Magazine website. And here is evidence that Scrye (#8.7, October 2001) ran an "in-depth analysis of the game" and here is evidence that Scrye 8.8 ran an article on the game too. The Cinescape Magazine website also has many other long articles written about the game. I believe the game meets WP:GNG. --Odie5533 (talk) 16:08, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BOZ Yes. Layla, the remover (talk) 12:57, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ and Layla, the remover: A 'delete' opinion is supported and hence withdrawing is not applicable. --Mhhossein talk 18:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:35, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ranyal

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I couldn't verify that this is notable. 1st AfD attracted no responses. Sending WP:APPNOTE to Krishna Chaitanya Velaga. Boleyn (talk) 12:56, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Clear consensus to delete. Mentions in a google search does not imply that it meets our notability standards. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:41, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lesson XX

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Notability tagged since March 2009. No discussion on ANN outside of a basic Encyclopaedia entry and it being mentioned in a question for "Hey Answerman" (but not mentioned in the response). It was reviewed on a now offline site that is available archived but I don't see anything suggesting it's RS - only 3 articles use it on Wikipedia according to an advanced search. No sings of a license in English or Europe. Entry in Anime Encyclopaedia 3rd edition is minimal and make no comments sufficient for reception. LBGT isn't a subject I have expertise in so perhaps that community will have some ideas. I haven't come up with anything through a general search. SephyTheThird (talk) 12:54, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete There's an entry in MADB [4], and the Anime Encyclopedia is promising, but there isn't much to write beyond the dictionary definition. Possible redirects to Ei Onagi who is the manga author but no article there, or Tokuma Japan Communications which is the producer, but the Tokuma article is too general for the company to have a list of works. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:37, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There are quite enough mentions of it, while searching in google. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 15:32, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Google hits are not a sign of notability, Especialy as the results here consist predominately of user edited databases, blogs and copyright violations. Google is useful for finding leads to suitable sources and evidence, but in this case the results returned are not helpful.SephyTheThird (talk) 15:47, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Nomination withdrawn. --Marvellous Spider-Man 12:54, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Vishwajeet Patangrao Kadam

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I feel that he doesn't pass WP:POLITICIAN due to his loss in the election. Although, he has been covered in some reliable sources. Marvellous Spider-Man 12:46, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Augustana Catholic Church. MBisanz talk 22:28, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Irl A. Gladfelter

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Per source searches, this subject does not meet WP:BASIC or WP:AUTHOR. Searches are only providing passing mentions. There's a paid obituary linked in the article that provides significant coverage, but this is a primary source that does not serve to establish notability. North America1000 12:24, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Fails WP:BASIC -- HighKing++ 19:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Keep -- The fact that he retired and is now leader emeritus of this denomination should make no difference to his notability. The question is whether having been the head of what is probably a small splinter denomination is enough to make him notable as a bishop. That really depends on the size of the denomination. If it has only a few churches, this would amount to being the minister of a local church, and probably NN. However, the head of a moderate sized denomination will have episcopal oversight over it and may thus be notable. Unfortunately, the article on the denomination gives not indication of its size. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:18, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
vote amended in the light of evidence that this is a small (but not negligible) denomination. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:08, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Since Gladfelter left the denomination for Roman Catholicism, I think "leader emeritus" is not the right term, plus he is now dead. That said, per the denomination's website [5] it has a membership in excess of 60,000 in 12 countries. This is way more than the under 18,000 in the Episcopal Diocese of Michigan, yet we have an article on the head of that diocese, over the under 13,000 in the Episcopal Diocese of New Hampshire, the head of which merits an article. Take a look at the article on Stephen T. Lane, whose Episcopal Diocese of Maine has less than 12,000 members. I actually think it is high time we question weather the heads of organizations with less than 12,000 members where the articles are only sourced to organization publications are notable. Yes there are Episcopal bishops who receive widespread coverage in the media, but I think it is high time we question weather that makes every current and past episcopal bishop default notable. However I think Gladfelter is clearly notable and no where near the bottom of the barrel.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:17, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Augustana Catholic Church, where he is already mentioned in the list of leaders. Although he is discussed in on the websites of the several denominations with which he was involved, the only secondary source I can find is an obit [6] in the The Daily Star-Journal, a WP:RS, but for notability I would expect to be able to find some additional secondary sources for his career.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:05, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect as suggested. Good compromise solution. DGG ( talk ) 19:23, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – I'm fine with a redirect to Augustana Catholic Church per the notions presented above. North America1000 20:35, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. North America1000 03:51, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kerry Remsen

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As the article itself says (!) she only held minor roles in films; not covered by Wikipedia:Reliable sources in any depth. In short, fails Wikipedia:Notability. GRuban (talk) 21:34, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep, She had appeared as Pamela in 65 episodes of Tribes. A major role as one of the leading actors in Appointment with Fear. A significant part as Taffi Fisher in Dreams of Gold: The Mel Fisher Story, one of the leading actors in Smart Alec as Samantha. She was one of the main actors in Ghoulies II, playing the part of Nicole. She had a decent part in Two Moon Junction as Carolee. She was also a significant cast member in Pumpkinhead playing the part of Maggie. She also had some good roles in various television series like Family Ties and Doogie Howser, M.D., etc. No problem giving a Keep vote here but I have to say that it doesn't come as any surprise that this attracted an AFD nomination. The article is a shabby mess! Karl Twist (talk) 08:48, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing I would like more than to save this article, but can you find anything more in Wikipedia:Reliable sources than a list of roles? A news article about her? Even some interviews? Honestly, I looked, and all I could find was a podcast interview on some guy's blog, hardly the most reliable or notable of sources. --GRuban (talk) 17:57, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • It doesn't matter when her roles finished or she stopped working. She worked for 14 years from 1981 to 1995. She had more than a good handful of significant roles. The article page has had no thought or organization in it's creation that's all. Karl Twist (talk) 09:22, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck. I would request the closing admin let you finish... however, for now, it looks like you're just adding lists of roles, either very minor roles, or moderate roles in very minor films (most of the "one of the group of teenagers killed by the slasher" type). --GRuban (talk) 18:41, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi GRuban, while some of the roles I have added are minor or moderate, some of the others are major roles and she has been female lead at least two films as well as major supporting actress in three others. Three of the horror films have significant cult following and value. Already as a recognized actress in the 80's horror genre (Pale in comparison to 60's and 70's horror IMO, but each to their own), her characters are recognized and remembered. This is why she is included on the bonus-features for the "Ghoulies / Ghoulies II" Blu-ray Review. When this article was nominated for deletion, it consisted of nothing more than a C&P of IMDB listing and just 2 lines of intro about he. All of that was written in a messy misleading way. It resembled something the dog or cat had thrown up on the kitchen floor. Karl Twist (talk) 08:42, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Withdraw Nomination, or, if I can't do that since others have opined to delete, then Keep. Karl Twist's work needs to be rewarded; this is now a very thorough article. --GRuban (talk) 20:20, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. sufficient consensus DGG ( talk ) 19:22, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bradley Riddell

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Non-notable MMA fighter - does not meet WP:NMMA or WP:KICK Peter Rehse (talk) 11:36, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:50, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Michael Linsner

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The subject of this article has recently been blocked for WP:NLT so I looked at the article and its history. Most of what you see here was not created by the subject, but equally it has no reliable independent sources. The only cited source for most of the article's life has been the subject's own website. There are plenty of articles that offer insight into his career that are verifiable and third-party the mainstream media and press. No doubt he's associated with some notable works, but that doesn't make a comic book artist automatically notable, that comes from WP:GNG, and this is a fail on that score. His depictions of anatomically improbable female pulchritude seem popular with fanbois, but I can't find any substantive sources to add. Guy (Help!) 10:07, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. As written, with next to no sources (and I cannot find any), fails WP:CREATIVE. Obviously you have not looked very carefully for substantial work. Just being an artist, drawing some comics (or writing a few books) is not enough to be in an encyclopedia. I find it amazing that someone's career is not worthy especially one being a game changer. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:28, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Note that some of the edits in the past are by an IP with similar edits as the named account that has disclosed to be the subject. Note also that the biography is currently offline on their website (404 in my case) and that the website overall is a placeholder for an announcement dated 2013, promising things to 'come soon'. --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:44, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is the reason for the consideration of deletion primarily due to the lack of a current website? The subject has a long (25+ year) career in the comics industry having done work for all the major publishers in the field. It seems odd this entry is in danger of deletion. This is not a case of vanity publishing with no ready audience.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Acax72 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 13 December 2016 (UTC) — Acax72 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

--- Yes, a search at newsArama alone yields 53 results of Linsner's comics output, also a few at The Comics Journal. An ebay keyword search of his name under Comics yields close to 2500 listings of published items including comics, trading cards, books, etc. This is clearly a professional with an actual audience out there. Acax72 (talk) 20:02, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The coverage has to be from a professional journalist who is writing in a work known for editorial control and fact-checking. That means that eBay searches aren't useful. Newsarama is listed on the WikiProject Comics list of vetted sources, so anything they say would likely count to establishing notability. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:19, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

COMMENT: I do not feel that this page is properly submitted for deletion. I added an external link to a vetted source The Comics Journal article from 12/2013 titled These Past Weeks In Comics - Tuesdays In Retrospect Acax72 (talk) 06:56, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And I feel that your very first edit was to this debate, and the subject, who has shown more interest in the article than anyone else, was recently blocked for legal threats. Odd, that. Guy (Help!) 09:29, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

STRONG KEEP: OK. Having now been cited with a WP:COI from User Talk:JzG for editing MY own page to add links to vetted sources to try and improve it -- I should let everyone know I strongly contest this deletion of my page and I only edited the article to include the following links to vetted sources:

User Talk:Joseph Michael Linsner (Copied here from talk page. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:56, 16 December 2016 (UTC))[reply]

Le sigh. He just added another WP:LINKFARM. He keeps doing that. Guy (Help!) 14:25, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

COMMENT: Guy. No, I added that. Not Joe. And it seems that it is an impossible feat to edit or add the links to prove vetted sources. Why is that I wonder? I do not think that this page, with it's history of being on Wikipedia since about 2005(?) should suddenly be in danger of removal. I will point out that you removed my first edits which added the following links to vetted sources:

  • CBR 9-20-2016 article HARLEY QUINN #4 (preview) [10]
  • CBR 10-19-2015 article DAWN/VAMPIRELLA #5 (preview) [11]
  • CBR 6-22-2015 article DAWN/VAMPIRELLA #4 (preview) [12]
  • CBR 2-16-2015 article DAWN/VAMPIRELLA #3 (preview) [13]
  • CBR 11-17-2014 article DAWN/VAMPIRELLA #2 (preview) [14]
  • CBR article 9-8-2014 article DAWN/VAMPIRELLA #1 (preview) [15]
  • Search on CBR yields several articles on subject Joseph Michael Linsner [16]
  • Search on Marvel Comics Creators for LINSNER [17]
  • Listed in the Marvel database fandom powered by wikia here [18]
  • Comic book database - Chronological listing June 1991 to present [19]
  • 1997 WILL EISNER COMIC INDUSTRY AWARD NOMINEE (for best painter) [20]

User talk:Kristina Deak Linsner —Preceding undated comment added 14:52, 16 December 2016 (UTC) — Kristina Deak Linsner (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

  • Delete due to lack of substantial independent sources. I also could not find any valid sources, and almost all of the sources mentioned in this discussion only describe comics the subject has worked on. These sources are not specifically about the person and do not describe the subject in any detail outside of a name credit or brief mention. The award nominee link might be ok, but that alone is not enough. A valid source needs to describe the subject in significant detail.
As for the article being on Wikipedia for several years, Wikipedia is really big, and many articles on Wikipedia exist that should be deleted. If you encounter one, you are welcome to nominate it for deletion. The length of time an article has been on Wikipedia does not grant it protection from deletion. ZettaComposer (talk) 15:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • STRONG KEEP: ZettaComposer (talk) Some of the links do describe more than just the credits of the comics worked on, and include reviews of the comics which describe the way in which the subject worked on them. So do you mean an article with an Interview? Such as the Westfield Comics Interview [21] or else a direct interview with LINSNER here such as this Newsarama interview on the CLAWS2 (featuring Wolverine/Black Cat) ? [22] Several articles and interviews can be found in magazines which are not online, but instead printed on physical paper as the internet was not yet as available to all users back then, nor as popular as it is today.
Aa well there is this article on Illustration Age celebrating him as Illustrator of the week. [23]
And I see there has also been a link added to the page for TCJ - The Comics Journal [24] here. User:Kristina Deak Linsner (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:07, 16 December 2016 (UTC) — Kristina Deak Linsner (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Noting that this named account has a COI similar to the subject itself. See http://multiverse-magazine.com/tag/kristina-deak-linsner/ --Dirk Beetstra T C 20:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Checkuser Note The Kristina Deak Linsner and Joseph Michael Linsner accounts are  Technically indistinguishable.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:48, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Final thoughts on this matter: Unfortunately, as "fans" are logging in to simply read his article, they see the link about it being "nominated for deletion" at the top of the page--and the prompts to comment on the discussion page. Hence, the entires I imagine here to this discussion thread resulting in "Strong keep."

I sat down with Joe and I asked him "Do you really even NEED a Wikipedia page?" and he stated "No, I don't essentially." As it was never authored by him in the first place and hardly portrays what we would like to about him and his career. He merely edited it to include links to more recent works and update his photo. (the previous one was from 2007) Which are the edits he made recently and what started this whole mess in the first place.

Part of the issue with finding and listing independent sources, is that many of these articles on Joe were written in the 90's on printed matter and have no online history. Comic book authors and artists mainly write, draw, pencil, and ink a lot. (Joe even colors his own work 80-85% of the time) They spend so much time behind the drafting table that they don't really have lives which can be reported on via any other source than links to their visual or written work. Which in and of itself, does not leave much time for articles to be written about whether or not they "had a great golf game" or "enjoy long walks in the park" or "what their influences are", etc. so ultimately, we will just accept the decision whatever it is and move on. User:Kristina Deak Linsner (talk) Kristina Deak Linsner (talk) 06:25, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Page is not protected, so taking out the edit-request.
@Kristina Deak Linsner and Joseph Michael Linsner: I see you said this earlier, and are repeating this here: "Part of the issue with finding and listing independent sources, is that many of these articles on Joe were written in the 90's on printed matter and have no online history". There is no requirement on Wikipedia that an article that is/can be used as a reference is available online. If you could provide us with definite pointers to those articles (generally: name of periodical, date/issue/etc., pagenumbers), then those could be used to assess notability (even if that means that interested people would need to go get the originals). It does however seem somewhat strange that there is nothing more recent that is available online. --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:54, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • STRONG KEEP I would also like to add a vote to KEEP this entry up. I'm a fan who happened to be checking some info on comics artists I enjoy and was very puzzled by a suggestion to delete Linsner's page. The subject has been working in the industry (for all of the major publishers in the field ) since the early 1990's. He has done work for DC Comics on Harley Quinn and work for Marvel on Wolverine, 2 brief but very high-profile examples among dozens upon dozens of other assignments for major industry clients. I can not see any logical reason for a deletion here. Acax72 (talk) 17:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC) — Acax72 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • It is interesting to see that fans and editors clearly close to the subject/being the subject themselves do not come up with better sources than the linkfarm that is posted above, claiming even a wikia entry to be a reliable, independent source. Being included in a database isn't cutting the deal either. It must become much better than that, hence delete. --Dirk Beetstra T C 20:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My suggestion is certainly to keep this entry. Linsner has a 25+-year career as a notable writer and artist in comic books, working both independently and for major publishers. He is arguably a major figure in independent publishing. —Jim McLauchlin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CD99:2170:C62C:3FF:FE36:6370 (talk) 22:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC) — 2602:304:CD99:2170:C62C:3FF:FE36:6370 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Thank You JIm McLaughlin [25] Please read Jim's bio. He is a journalist for those that do not know that. As was suggested "We need a professional journalist to stand up and say, "Hey, this guy is important. Pay attention to him." by NinjaRobotPirate (talk) I appreciate the helpful suggestion.

Joe's website and his bio are currently under construction which is why you see the 404 error on his bio and the old placeholder upon viewing it. Crime??

And as to the accounts being  Technically indistinguishable. If what you are getting at is we have the same IP address? Yes, we live in the same house and use the same IP address and computer. Is that suddenly not allowed on Wikipedia? So many rules to slog through when you are a newbie. I already know better than to ask any Editors or Admins for help -- (see Beetstra and JzG). As I see how hostile they can be by how my husband was treated. This is now bordering on bullying. The conversation which I feel ignited the entire nomination for deletion of his page is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Beetstra

And a WI:COI for me too? I can assure you that I have only worked with Joe the last 6 years - but if that means I am in violation, so be it. It seems NO ONE can successfully edit this page to include links, or or to navigate through to find Independent sources and add them without being thwarted with some kind of citation from either JzG or a comment of accusation from Beetsra. I wonder why this is? As I said I am a newbie to this and Wikipedia takes time to learn. User:Kristina Deak Linsner (talk)

@Kristina Deak Linsner: No, that the website is under construction is not a crime. It is at the moment however the only reference that is there (and a primary reference as such), which means that the only evidence we have that something is true is because the subject says so. That is not the best argument, is it? And 'currently', the state of the homepage suggests that it is under construction for 3 years now (it is a placeholder for a 2013 announcement). But all of that is not the biggest issue, the issue is that there are no independent references (and note that an interview with a subject is not really independent - the interviewer asks questions, and the subject is answering, that is still not independent about the subject). That you can buy the comics on e-bay is also not enough. We are not finding evidence for existence, we trying to find what other people, totally independent of the subject, find notable.
Regarding conflict of interest - WP:COI starts with 'Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself', family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial and other relationships' (my bolding). You sharing the same name, the publishing together (as per the link I provided), makes you closely involved with the subject of the page (you now are saying that you are living in the same place). That in itself is not a problem (as long as it is honestly declared) when it is not influencing the neutrality of the article, and the editors are (more) strictly adhering to the policies and guidelines of this site. And you do have an advantage, which I hope you will use. Being so close to the subject (or being the subject yourself), should enable you to provide us with properly independent references. And as I say in my !vote, such sources do not even come from you (they are all trivial, showing that the books are sold on ebay, and that people have interviewed him, and that he worked with distinguised companies - I can argue the same, that does not give me the right on a Wikipedia article), suggesting that there is indeed not much that has been independently said about the subject. Can you provide such references? --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:56, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I was holding off on my decision while I looked for more sources, but I'm just not finding independent reliable sources to show notability. I'm leaning to "Delete" but I admit that this is not my area of expertise. so it's possible I'm not looking in the right places. I'll be happy to change this to a "Keep" if someone can find good sources, but the fan sites, blogs, and comic previews that we've been shown so far don't make the grade to show the notability of the artist. He's been around long enough that I think there's a good chance this can be saved. We need solid refs about the artist, not about the comic strips he draws. Meters (talk) 00:44, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • COMMENT - knowledgeable editors are currently digging out some references (which are mostly off-line). I'd suggest adding a bit of time to this discussion to see what is coming out of that. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:00, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but when the "references" include Wikia sites, there's a definite problem. Guy (Help!) 12:47, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I think a misconception exists among some users that a deletion result means the article will never be allowed on Wikipedia. This is not always the case, and definitely not the case with this article (it does not contain copyright infringements and it is not an attack page).
If the result of this discussion is to delete the article, an admin can be contacted to Userfy the page, allowing a person to take their time, get this article updated to the strict Wikipedia standards for living person articles, and move it back into main article space (perhaps through articles for creation which I recommend due to the person working to save it having a COI.) Since harder to find print sources might exist, I think userfication works as a better long-term solution to see if these sources can be found.
I say all of this because many people on Wikipedia favor deletion of these sorts of articles because the initial view is that this sort of article exists only for self-promotion, regardless of whether or not that was the intention by the article creator. ZettaComposer (talk) 13:56, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, my "delete" !vote isn't intended to mean that I think this article should never exist. On the contrary, I would be interested in reading it when it returns full of reliable sources, created by an independent person. Exemplo347 (talk) 14:29, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still hoping we can save this article. If it's just a matter of locating appropriate reliable sources that we believe exist then we should hold off on a decision while the article is improved, or userfy the article if it's taking too long. Meters (talk) 19:23, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

STRONG KEEP: Joe Linsner has done prominent work for all major US comic publishers, including Marvel, DC, Image and Dark Horse. He was hired to illustrate two miniseries/graphic novels starring Wolverine [26] (Marvel's second-most-popular character after Spider-Man), several issues of Harley Quinn [27] (the breakout character from the 2016 film Suicide Squad) for DC, multiple covers for Conan the Cimmerian for Dark Horse [28] and art for multiple issues of Vampirella for Harris and Dynamite. [29] [30] In 1997 he was nominated for an Eisner award for best painter.[31] He has been profiled in and painted multiple covers for Wizard Magazine. [32] I see from the discussion above that some proponents for deleting this page feel that simply illustrating popular characters may not make Linsner himself noteworthy, and that many of the interviews and articles about him are not available online. Here is a list of selected print articles focused specifically on Linsner himself, with links to online scans of the articles:

  • Wizard #120, September 2001. Article: "Cup of Joe" (profile of Linsner and his work) by Jim McLaughlin. Also, Linsner's character Dawn is on the cover.
  • Capital Comics Internal Correspondance, May 1995 issue. Article: "A Sirius Interview; With Two Sirius Guys" by Tom Fassbender. Linsner's character Dawn also on cover.
  • Sketch Magazine #32, features cover art and a feature-length interview with Linsner. [33]
  • Wizard #92, April 1999. Article "Red Dawn" (Interview with Joe Linsner) by Jim McLaughlin.
  • Wizard #49, July 199. Article "Dawn of a New Era" by Matt Brady. [34]

Full disclosure: I am friends with Joe Linsner and hired him in 1995 to paint two covers for my short-lived comic book 'Coven of Angels.'[35] Kristen Brennan (talk) 01:54, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - I am not sure how much some of the people voting to keep are using the helpful search options at the top of this page, so I'll summarize a couple of things. When looking for reliable secondary sources, usually the best place to look first is the newspapers. There, I am finding nothing for NYT, nothing under the newspaper search, while I find sources under "news", they are not mainstream news - that tells me that he has a great following in the comic book world, but is not meeting WP:GNG requirements for notability because he's not hitting mainstream press at all from what I can tell, but definitely not with significant coverage. There are three items in HighBeam, but they are passing mentions, and not a comprehensive article about him and his career which occurs with people that are notable from an encyclopedic standpoint. In the custom google search, once you look for mainstream news sources + consider the use of independent sources, there is one article from CNN that pops up, again a passing mention.
So, I get why people in the comic arena are very interested in his work - and do see lots on the web - but, they aren't the kind of sources required to prove notability for an encyclopedia article.—CaroleHenson (talk) 01:11, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Carole Henson suggests that while Linsner "has a great following in the comic book world" and "people in the comic arena are very interested in his work," "usually the best place to look first is the newspapers," so the absence of newspaper stories about him means that "he is not meeting Wikipedia's requirements for notability." However, Wikipedia's official guidelines to the most reliable sources are explicitly *not* limited to newspapers - in fact, newspapers are only #5 on the list while magazines are #4.[36] Wizard_(magazine) in particular had a monthly circulation of 100,000 [37], more than many newspapers.[38] Linsner has been widely profiled by Wizard and many other comic industry magazines, as documented above. Kristen Brennan (talk) 00:20, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete per WP:SNOW. It looks like this was something that this one group came up with one day, so it could have potentially fallen under WP:G11, but this way makes it a bit more permanent. It's extremely unlikely that this specific concept will ever become notable enough for Wikipedia's purposes. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:19, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Scare factor (ClosingLogos)

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Can't find the proper CSD label so bringing it here. Incoherent text about logos and/or the "scare factor", something Google has never heard of. Could be original research, definitely unsourced, and totally unclear. Yintan  09:34, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but no evidence to article The Scare Factor should be search from these article Scare Factor clg. . Declared dead or else bare link to this article. Sorry abut that. Open Source 2.0 (talk) 10:30, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:37, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Blatant advertising with nothing but blatant advertising sources, and worse, the advertised accepted it themselces instead of having it reviewed, showing exactly the blatancy. There's absolutely nothing here to suggest accepting against WP:SPAM and WP:NOT. SwisterTwister talk 23:52, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Don't delete per WP:GNG. From my study of WP:GNG, I believe the article passes the criteria. A check on Google.com news showcases lots of news-related references that are verifiable according to WP:GNG. I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong. I also believe the article is neutral and non-promotional. Please keep. The deletion tag is uncalled for.Mmesoyaba (talk) 08:24, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete: the article includes: "Karrm Infrastructure designs and creates affordable housing for Indian developing residential communities with the view of enhancing better living standards and ending housing insecurity across the nation" -- such content belongs on the company's web site, not here. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:52, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. as per WP:GNG. Promotional content seems to have been removed. Besides, there are lots of news references that supports the notability of the write-up — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krawtani2600 (talk • contribs) 08:13, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. AfD with multiple relists and no objections is treated as an uncontested PROD. – Juliancolton | Talk 21:56, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rosanna Walls

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Fails WP:NACTOR: BEFORE did not produce demonstrably independent and reliable sources offering significant coverage. —swpbT 16:33, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. No discussion after two relists (non-admin closure) — Music1201 talk 23:50, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Harmony drive

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Non notable music band. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 12:24, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. No new comments in several days so a third relist seems unlikely to be of much use. No prejudice toward a new nomination. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:36, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Steptoe & Johnson

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Fork of deleted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steptoe & Johnson PLLC, written by paid-for editors, the latest of which is working on User:JoeE PPC PubAssist/sandbox (through that editor has disclosed his COI and his draft is not subject to this deletion - I am just noting the general trend). The article has plenty of referenced puffery, but it is the case of Wikipedia:Bombardment - very few refs are about the company, and most of those that are mention it in passing. The company has won some niche industry awards, but it is hard to say if they are serious or given to anyone who pays registration fee/etc. and none are notable and defining. The best ref I see is [40] and it is just a short paragraph in a trade journal, and frankly, all it says is that the company is doing ok, but nothing more. It is not the largest or the anything, it is just one of many mid sized legal businesses out there. Nothing encyclopedic here. Fails WP:NCORP as far as I can tell. Just like the previous deleted draft did. Thoughts? (See also WP:CORPSPAM). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:24, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete -- the company may or may not be notable, but the article fails WP:PROMO, which is a fundamental policy. The content opens with:
  • ... an international law firm recognized[by whom?] for advocacy[peacock prose] in complex[peacock prose] litigation and arbitration, representation of clients before governmental agencies, and guidance in business transactions. The firm has more than 500 lawyers and other professionals in offices in Beijing, Brussels, Chicago, London, Los Angeles, New York, Palo Alto, Phoenix, and Washington, D.C.
Wikipedia is not an office directory either. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:07, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The vast majority of the sources given are either not WP:RS or not independent of the article subject. What remains is mostly passing mentions or quotes from an employee/partner in the firm about some other subject. The only independent, significant coverage seems to be about the firm deciding to accept Bitcoins for payment of fees, which is a bit WP:1E. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Spark412 has done yeoman work in removing the most objectionably-promotional text and adding citations to WP:RS. These are enough to show me that there is potential for improvement in the article and that the article subject is notable based on coverage. Coverage of their pro bono activities added to the Bitcoin stories eliminated my previous WP:1E concern. I am changing my !vote to Keep for these reasons. I would suggest, however, that the "History" section be more fully cited. It currently has almost none, and contains the bulk of the encyclopedic information. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 14:43, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- I made some edits to address the concerns above. The vast majority of references now are independent, and promotional language has been toned down. As noted in the new intro, the firm is the 93rd highest-grossing firm in the US, per the Am Law 100, the equivalent for law firms of a Fortune 500 ranking. Only two of the top 100 highest grossing are absent from Wikipedia (Sheppard Mullin and Ogletree Deakins). Spark412 (talk) 19:30, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- I don't see being "93rd largest law firm" a sufficient claim to notability. The article is still promotional; for example, I just removed this self-cited passage: diff. The lead is still an office directory. Etc. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:56, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- I removed the opening office listing, stating just that it's headquartered in Washington, DC. What remains of the article is independently sourced, and I have trouble seeing how it's promotional. It seems to me that if a company's inclusion in the Fortune 500 is intrinsically notable, than so is a law firms' inclusion in the Am Law 100. Certainly very few of the other 97 Am Law 100 entries on Wikipedia have any more than this one to distinguish them. See, e.g., Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom or Crowell & Moring. Spark412 (talk) 14:08, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. There seems to be a general consensus that there is sufficient notability for inclusion. That said, the article has been edited almost exclusively by people associated with the business, and consequently has severe promotional overtones in its content and prose. While not by any means required, it would be very helpful and much appreciated for the uninvolved editors who voted "keep" to try editing the article for tone and NPOV. – Juliancolton | Talk 21:54, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Superstition Meadery

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This is close to a WP:G11 as a promotional article, and is questionable as to notability. Cannot be made non-promotional without being blanked. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:48, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: (Also see previous comment) I've added references 2, 3, 4, & 7 to show notability and significance. 'See also' section now has two wikipedia articles linked to this one. I believe these changes should remove this article from being a WP:G11 promotional article, and is no longer questionable as to notability. I am requesting the removal of this delete inquiry or at least information as to how this article can be modified to be satisfactory. Justindevine (talk) 10:34, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: the creators of this article have appropriately declared on the article's talk page that they are employees of the company, and that their purpose is to promote awareness of mead, meaderies, and this meadery in particular. However, they have provided independent reputable sources (The Daily Courier, Paste, Draft and RateBeer) demonstrating notability as an award-winning concern. The article is not worded in a promotional fashion. It does talk a lot about the meadery's awards, but this talk is well-sourced, and is also the basis for notability. Thus, I don't think the article is solely promotional, and I think the subject is sufficiently notable to deserve a place here. ubiquity (talk) 17:01, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to The_Anubis_Tapestry#Film_adaptation. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 17:40, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anubis (film)

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Was deprodded without rationale. Uncited article, which appears to be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Does not meet WP:FILM Onel5969 TT me 04:08, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: I initially thought that this was a hoax, but Variety did report on the books getting optioned. There's also this bit from 2014, which looks to be a press release. However other than that, there's nothing out there to show that this project is really active. Now as far as the cast list goes, that seems to be a hoax, as I can't find anything to show that any of these actors have been signed to the film. Some of them are very well known people (James Franco, Guillermo del Toro) and others are pretty well known otherwise, so it's really unlikely that there would be no coverage of them signing to a film. I mean, del Toro commands a great deal of press based only on whispers, after all. I think that this is at best WP:TOOSOON. This could probably be sent to draft or userspace if someone wanted to incubate it for a while, though. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:48, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Blue Sky Studios#Upcoming - I added references and removed trivia. However, it has not received any coverage since 2013. The cast seems entirely speculative or was added by someone with inside info - there is no coverage whatsoever about who is starring, and these are some big names. It's certainly a notable film backed by big studios, but too soon. It remains a plausible search term. Once it's updated the article can be resurrected from the redirect. —МандичкаYO 😜 04:50, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • if we are going to redirect anywhere surely it should be The_Anubis_Tapestry#Film_adaptation. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:46, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:30, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Capalaba Central Shopping Centre

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fails WP:GNG. last AfD was 8 years ago but we now have a better consensus on what makes a notable shopping centre. gnews search shows very limited and routine coverage. LibStar (talk) 05:27, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Seems pretty notable might need to be kept for another month if no specific source is found then delete. BugMenn (talk) 18:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

seems notable is not the same as notable. WP:ITSNOTABLE. LibStar (talk) 08:30, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - Admittedly without a thorough understanding of the notability criteria for shopping centres, I believe fundamentally the article and content has encyclopedic value that could be of informational benefit to a reader. Aeonx (talk) 06:54, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

could be of international benefit? How? You present zero argument as to how a notability guideline is met. LibStar (talk) 10:36, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 21:45, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sandeep Tyagi

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My PROD was noticeably quickly removed by what I presume to be both an advertising-only and COI account, because this entire article (regardless of anything or anyone) clearly only exists for advertising and that alone, so WP:NOT certainly applies. Also, as the PROD said, it's clear there are attempts to fluff-puff everything to make this seem like an entirely "informative and neutral" article but it's far from that, so with advertising and WP:NOT, it's clear. The awards, once again, are clearly trivial and nothing else would show them to be anything else, and even mentioning them is clear advertising alone. SwisterTwister talk 05:37, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Secondly, the article has been neutralized by another editor after the "PROD" placed by User:SwisterTwister. I wonder why he or she decided to place the deletion discussion tag after the PROD issue was addressed. I believe this is rather discouraging on my part. I hope a wiki admin will take a look at this properly and offer the best judgement. ThanksRussiagitaa (talk) 08:10, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep There's enough in the write-up to get past WP:GNG. I just took a closer look at the references used. The page is also factual and non-promotional in essenseGermcrow (talk) 10:51, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Taking a closer look at the references, just as suggested, there are no substantial actual references about him. There are a few brief notices of his companies, there are a few articles he wrote, there's his name on his list, there's this self-written bio for an Emerald journal, and there are references about people of the same name who are not him. DGG ( talk ) 21:11, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. clear consensus DGG ( talk ) 21:12, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jopaul

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Although some random IP came and said to improve the article, I believe the fact this was clearly a paid advertisement is far important and a worse sitaution and therefore deletion is needed, regardless of any notability or claims of it, because as the PROD stated, this is in fact nothing but advertising and the accounts involved have all stated it, therefore WP:NOT which is policy applies, regardless of what anyone else calls it. SwisterTwister talk 06:33, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is not written as an advertisement or anything, I dont understand what is WP:NOT , or how that is applicable to this article. This article has greater news references including from prominent Billboard and the artist clearly passes Notability from every respect. So I created an article as I am one of his fans. The article is more over not an advertisement or anything as I have referred many similar artists wiki pages to create this one. So user Swister is desperate here to clear off my article. I dont know why. I am better stopping my article writing just because of these kind of people who are desperate for deleting pages. Godisthebestone (talk) 08:07, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment : Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria. - > Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1]

This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following: 1. Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3] Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories. Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases. 2. Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. 3. Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country. 4. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.[note 4] 5. Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable). 6. Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles.[note 5] This should be adapted appropriately for musical genre; for example, having performed two lead roles at major opera houses. 7. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. 8. Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award. 9. Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition. 10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read WP:BLP1E and WP:BIO1E for further clarifications) 11. Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. 12. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.

Here Jopaul passes not just one but many criteria. So I scream a strong keep. Godisthebestone (talk) 06:52, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Note to user Godisthebestone. All the criteria you cite follows an important WP:MUSIC preamble that you are overlooking: “Musicians or ensembles may be notable…” These are not automatic qualifiers but, rather, points to be considered in determining if a subject merits an encyclopedia entry. That’s why we have these discussions. Editors need to assess the importances of the sources. The ones here are mostly junk with little editorial oversight and filled with hyperbolic claims, made by the subject himself, that are not backed up with attributions. Yeah, there’s some smoke and mirrors here. “The Chicago Tribune” would seem important until you check out the particular place where the article appears: in the Tribune’s “Community Contributors” section where users post their own articles. See: (http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/community/chi-community-contributors-who-are-they-20130624-story.html) . I’ll admit “Billboard” as a source initially had me thinking the subject might have some merit, until one investigates and finds it was written by the same author of the piece that ran in Respect magazine, both with similar hyperbolic language from the subjects own claims. This indicates the Billboard article is not an independent, third party opinion, but instead part of a multi-headed promotional effort. The other sources, Flex and Popular Magazine, openly solicit content from artists wishing to promote themselves. Plus, the charts cited are insignificant, and the fallacy of notability by association argument is so worn out that it doesn’t bear repeating. ShelbyMarion (talk) 15:04, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to West Coast Motors. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:53, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Perryman's Buses

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Non-notable bus operator. There are a couple of notable (as publishers) sources but they don't imply that the subject itself is notable. Nordic Nightfury 10:32, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete.  Sandstein  06:52, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

EMolecules

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Currently zero sources. There are some hits on Google News, but nothing that indicates notability. ~ Rob13Talk 08:35, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is indeed notable, eMolecules is e.g. one of the biggest data sources for ChemSpider. But the article is written like an advertisement.--TIB-NOA (talk) 13:20, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. Written as an ad. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC).[reply]
  • Reluctant delete. I've bought molecules from them before. Probably at least 6.02x1023 of them! ;) But I can't find enough sources that actually cover the company in sufficient depth to rewrite the article, which is obviously unsuitable as it stands. Most coverage is routine press release stuff, announcements of partnerships and database integration, blog posts and chatter from chemists about their products, etc. This is the kind of subject where an article would be useful, so I hate to delete it, but if the sources aren't there then there's nothing else we can do. Opabinia regalis (talk) 07:02, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. eMolecules is a great resource for research chemists like me. I use it nearly every day. But I can't find any significant coverage in independent sources to establish notability. Regarding the claim above that being "one of the biggest data sources for ChemSpider" (it's actually the sixth largest source) establishes notability, if that's the best thing that can be said about it's notability, it's not notable. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:03, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  06:56, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dionisio Pinilla

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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:MUSICBIO: I failed to find anything to support his role in any show as claimed in the article and his name was added in Tricky Business (UK TV series) and Packed to the Rafters by the creator of this article which is still unsourced. GSS (talk) 06:46, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 21:43, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Adé Olufeko

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The article mentions him as American, but there are few sources in google news. I expect notable Americans to be covered more in English media. Marvellous Spider-Man 05:56, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong Keep @ Marvellous Spider-Man Respectfully disagree - that is a subjective opinion as an editor. The media (which half are american based) sources confirm his nationality. The article is about an international person. See World News Network reference. Did you even look at the talk pages? If you took the time to look at the sources you would objectively know the user is indeed who they say he is. Rather that put a AFD on the article you should have removed the american references and put into correct category. Eightnisan 07:58, 13 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eightnisan (talk • contribs) [reply]
  • Comment. After google.com I searched with Google Nigeria settings, google.com.ng , and the only reliable result was from ynaija.com. And the two sources had passing mention.
Social media week is also not a strong source.
Guardian source is not The Guardian source, it's a different website. And the source has a passing mention. Doesn't discuss the subject in depth.
afrolicious is user generated and the link doesn't work. 404 not found.
master plan event is a primary source and the source doesn't cover the subject indepth.Other sources has brief mention.
Voice of America. The actual source given in the article is is a video about other people. The other Voice of America link is a fake site which has no connection to Voice of America.
He is related to Visual Collaborative, which was also nominated for deletion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Visual Collaborative and closed as no consensus. Marvellous Spider-Man 04:28, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:52, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Doval

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This singer-songwriter does not meet notability criteria for WP:MUSICBIO, as he has not received coverage in recent news media Marvellous Spider-Man 05:11, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete There is little difference in accomplishment between now and the previous time this article was deleted. The particular chart referenced in the industry trade publication FMQB ("Friday Morning Quarterback") is not acknowledged within the industry as a MAJOR chart (check out the mix of traditional internationally known notable artists with little known, DIY up-and-coming artists) This artist’s absence from any other contemporaneous charts should be noted. And as pointed out, the keeps and comments are from multiple SP edits. This artists existence is mostly social media/you tube/music download sites, etc., and references are self generated or with online publications that solicit self promotion. Existence does not equal notability. ShelbyMarion (talk) 15:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. "Is likely to be notable" is a weak argument, and the second "keep" opinion does not even make an argument.  Sandstein  06:54, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Adventist Today

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this article does not meet notability requirements nor does the article itself actually inform the users about the adventist today magazine Jonnymoon96 (talk) 01:33, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree this article does not meet notability requirements, what is the next step?...Simbagraphix (talk) 11:47, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

i don’t see why not however the talk page is not very active so but i will put the template up. Jonnymoon96 (talk) 23:45, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

i will probably add the speedy delete template since the discussion on this talk page is not happining very much--Jonnymoon96 (talk) 22:35, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonnymoon96: You cannot tag a page for speedy deletion unless it unquestionably meets one of the speedy deletion criteria. Lack of discussion at WP:AFD does not even come close. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:59, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete . Materialscientist (talk) 10:28, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Isaiah Oghenevwegba Ogedegbe

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Does not appear to be a notable religious figure, as a search for coverage only results in brief mentions, unreliable Wordpress links, and interviews by him rather than with him. The only link I could find specifically about him is this, but I am unsure of its reliability. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:18, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete No notability whatsoever and the only pages edited by that IP have to do with Isaiah Ogedegbe. Additionally, the IP is coming from Nigeria. It's very possibly a self-written article. Snood1205 (talk) 04:43, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm going to take exception to the notion that an article's creator being in the same country as the person the article is about contributes remotely to the likelihood of a COI (though not being in the same country does diminish the likelihood somewhat). Largoplazo (talk) 22:29, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Anarchyte (work | talk) 05:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yung Swiss

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Basically most part of this article isn't properly sourced. Results bring up press releases about his EPs or songs and nothing more, thus failing WP:MUSIC and WP:GNG. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 22:37, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Deja Voodoo (Canadian band). MBisanz talk 22:29, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gerard van Herk

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Subject does not possess enough independent coverage to constitute a standalone article. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:59, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. There is coverage from the St. John's Telegram [44], [45], which show he was a Canada Research Chair, which at least indicates that he has some standing as an academic, given that right now there are only 9 of them in his field (linquistics) There's also coverage from Mashable [46], coverage of his research in books by other linguists [47], and he gets mentioned by name several times in the context of his band/labels to Canadian rock in this book [48]. My sense is that while he might not be a slam dunk for either of the two fields (though it's more likely that he passes WP:CREATIVE because of his involvement with more than one group), there is at least a borderline notable figure for inclusion. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:16, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep as, regardless of anything, the Professor Chair is in fact enough for WP:PROF and that's all we need. SwisterTwister talk 08:05, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'm not an expert in Canadian academics and I don't know much about musician notability, but since it has been raised here, I'm interested in clarifying the significance of having been a Canada Research Chair. I think that SwisterTwister might be getting a little confused with the WP:PROF guideline of a named chair appointment at a major institution (which van Herk wouldn't pass anyway because he is an associate professor rather than a full professor). The website says there are profiles of over 1800 Canada Research Chairs, and that presumably doesn't include any of the former chairs since our subject is not listed. I'm just curious how many of these guys there have been and how notable this is. Does anyone know? EricEnfermero (Talk) 09:58, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No, I don't see how he passes WP:PROF. Being cited a few times and publishing some works is business-as-usual. I don't see awards, or anyone anywhere saying he is significant in the field. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:42, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Deja Voodoo (Canadian band). To be fair, this was created at a very different time (2006) in Wikipedia's history, when our standards for the notability of musicians or academics were a lot less well-defined and a lot less dependent on reliable sourcing than they are now — it used to be the case, for example, that primary source verification of a professor's existence on his university's own website, even if it couldn't make the article FA or GA by itself, was enough in and of itself to stave off deletion of the article. But that's not the rule anymore. On a ProQuest search, I get a grand total of 37 hits on his name, of which 30 are about the band and just include his name because he's a member of it — so he doesn't pass WP:NMUSIC on the basis of his musical career, because NMUSIC specifies that if a musician's coverage consists of having his existence namechecked in coverage that's fundamentally about his band rather than about him as an individual, then he gets a redirect to the band and not a standalone BLP (for example, in general the lead singer of a band is a lot more likely to satisfy the conditions if and when he releases a solo album — although there are obviously exceptions at the upper end of mainstream popular music fame, the general rule is that "lead singer of a band" does not automatically constitute grounds for a standalone BLP as a separate topic from the band for every lead singer of every band.)
    And of the just seven hits which are actually about him as a linguistics professor, I get three hits which are also just namechecks of his existence as a professor rather than being substantively about him, and four hits which are substantively enough about him to actually count for something toward notability but are actually just reprints of the same wire service article in four different newspapers — so per WP:REFBOMB, all four of those combine as one data point toward WP:GNG, not four distinct ones. A Tier 2 Canada Research Chair is not realistically an automatic WP:PROF pass by itself — as noted above the title represents "potential to lead in his field" rather than "already a leader in his field", so Tier 2 simply can't get the same presumption of notability that Tier 1 would get. It just can't be an automatic inclusion freebie in the absence of enough reliable sourcing to pass GNG.
    Which, thus, sends us right back to NMUSIC: if he's not sufficiently notable for other things to qualify for a separate standalone BLP, then he gets a redirect to his band rather than a standalone BLP. And, in fact, the band's article already includes a small amount of content about the fact that he went on to become a linguistics prof, so it's not like we would even need to merge much of this as "new" content — the substance of what's here is already duplicated there as it is. Bearcat (talk) 16:12, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete. I would normally consider the Canada Research Chair enough, but his associate rank makes clear that this is not the sort of distinction above full professor that we usually consider for notability via named chairs. And his citation record doesn't make a strong enough case for WP:PROF#C1. I'd be open to evidence that he is instead notable as a musician but judging from the above discussion that isn't clear either. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:48, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Deja Voodoo (Canadian band) where a paragraph about his post-performing career as an otherwise non-notable academic linguist can be added.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:38, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:36, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Luke Chable

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:35, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deletion (G12). (non-admin closure) st170etalk 17:10, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cultour+

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Fails WP:GNG, promotional, unsourced Kleuske (talk) 10:36, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Mhhossein talk 18:30, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Masami Masuda

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This biography fails WP:ARTIST. As he is residing in New York for a long time, his English name would show some sources. Marvellous Spider-Man 13:52, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. It does show sources - I suggest searching for "Cusi Masuda" through Google and observing the various media sources that appear, including New Yorker volumes, Locus and Sulfur. I am confused as to how you can claim that there are not some sources when many of them are, in fact, included in the article. Yadáyiⁿga (talk) 03:35, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sources must be Reliable sources not primary sources. Marvellous Spider-Man 17:11, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Marvellous Spider-Man: yes. I know. Do you think the New Yorker is a primary source? Yadáyiⁿga (talk) 23:42, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Where is the new yorker source? Does those sources describe the person in depth. Is there more than three source where he has been extensively covered? And I checked "Cusi Masuda" in the news after your comment. He is a living person and should be in the news. I got nothing for Masami Masuda also. Marvellous Spider-Man 01:04, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I will unpack those questions from the last one, in reverse.
First: yes, he is a living person. If you have read the article you will also know that he is 72. There is no expectation that a 72 year old performance artist will still be active, and thus covered by Google News, and the BLP policy has nothing to do with that assumption.
Second, I would suggest checking in Google Books, since historical (i.e.: pre-2000 or so) news sources are not included in Google News. If you do so, you will see multiple references to works including him, although unfortunately those core works are not entirely available. One that is, however, is an issue of Sulfur, an extremely prominent art magazine of the 80s, that includes multiple discussions of his work (see here for the index). There is also this work, which references his work being included in the Museum of Applied Arts, Vienna, and a reference to his work being included in the Flaxman Library. All of these things are, in fact, included in the article, which is what makes it so very confusing that you are repeatedly claiming here there are no sources for him.
Third: the standard is not "three or more sources" it is "multiple sources". And, fourth: here.
At this point I am extremely frustrated with this deletion discussion. You have nominated this for deletion, claiming there are no sources, when the article contains three sources - two of them with web links. You have claimed that the New Yorker is a primary source (it is not), claimed that I need three sources (I do not), and asked more questions than you have done homework. You could have asked these questions on my talk page, without nominating it for deletion until you were actually sure the article was not worth including, and treated me as a competent human being. I hope you will do so going forward. Yadáyiⁿga (talk) 04:08, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I am not able to view the NewYorker source. If any other user can access the source and confirm that this painter is extensivelly covered, and fulfills the number 4 criteria of WP:ARTIST, The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums., (as the criteria number- 1,2 and 3 is not satisfied) then please close this discussion as withdrawn by nominator. Marvellous Spider-Man 04:23, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    You, again, misunderstand the notability criteria. Artists are eligible under both WP:GNG and WP:ARTISTS. Simply establishing that multiple sources provide substantive coverage - which I have, through the book and the Sulfur pieces - is sufficient. Yadáyiⁿga (talk) 06:39, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I don't think he meets GNG and the Gbooks results suggest to me that that isn't even the same person whose work appears in the Museum of Applied Arts, for we seem to have results both for a visual artist and an engineer, who was with or at the Faculty of Technology, Tokyo Metropolitan University. I think two people may be conflated here, and regardless, the one in question fails WP:ARTIST. Delete Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:13, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Shawn in Montreal: I understood that meeting the General Notability Guideline was sufficient even if individual subject-area guidelines did not - am I mistaken? (I would be very interested to see the TMU result, not because I doubt you but simply because I could not find that information when initially trying to add sources to the article). Yadáyiⁿga (talk) 01:49, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I seem to be able to find sources (added). Critical assessments of his work by people like Donald Kustpit and Leon Golub and inclusion in the MAK show ought to count for something. WP:ARTIST#1 perhaps: The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers, or 4c: has won significant critical attention. He may be obscure or forgotten now, but this wasn't a nobody. Mduvekot (talk) 04:03, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bona fide references have been found for the artist, not the engineer, searching with the article subject's unique nickname. Striking through my delete !vote. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:43, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:29, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tetsuro Kiyooka

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Doesn't meet the notability guidelines for WP:ANYBIO as he is not properly covered in Japanese news websites in his Japanese name. Marvellous Spider-Man 14:11, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:36, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Daily Loud

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Non-notable blog lacking non-trivial, non-local secondary coverage. reddogsix (talk) 23:07, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify. Moved to Draft:St Andrews Angels -- RoySmith (talk) 04:56, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

St Andrews Angels

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:COMPANY Kleuske (talk) 23:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Incubate Hi guys, I'm the author of the article, would it be appropriate to request it moved to incubation? I can undertake the responsibilities to source and include greater references. I have found some more info. in Scottish business publications. I'm new here, so am still getting to grips with how the world of wikipedia works. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.121.214.198 (talk) 20:44, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Draftify If someone is interested in working on it, then no sense in deleting it. Maybe it can be cleaned up and better sources found. In the mean time, we can pull it out of mainspace. Ajpolino (talk) 03:08, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. czar 06:11, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Laverne Wilson

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Individual does not appear to meet the level of notability required for an article for political figures, activists, or anything of the sort. ALPolitico (talk) 08:58, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Anarchyte (work | talk) 05:37, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Harrison Powell

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Non-notable cricketer. Fails WP:NCRIC. I can't find any sources other than confirmation that somebody with his first initial and last name appeared in one college cricket match. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 00:00, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Passes WP:NCRIC. Has played two first-class cricket matches, the highest level of domestic cricket.Jevansen (talk) 01:51, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jevansen: How do you know? It's not in the article, and I can't find anything on Google. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 01:52, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It does say it - "He made his first class debut for Cardiff MCCU against Glamorgan on 1 April 2014." This is verified by the Cricinfo reference provided on the article. Jevansen (talk) 02:03, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. I didn't think university matches counted. I guess I'm mistaken. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 02:23, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, often University vs County fixtures don't have first-class status, but these ones did. Not sure what the determining factor is. Jevansen (talk) 02:29, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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