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Setting Yesterday Free (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I can find no evidence that this album meets WP:GNG or WP:NALBUM. Propose merge/redirect to Mark Heard as an alternative to deletion Emm90 (talk) 02:01, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Joy to the World (Bini song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The song does not demonstrate any notability and does not meet any of the criteria in WP:NALBUM. There is also no indication that it will pass any of the criteria in the future. I have already raised the concern with another editor and the original page creator, who does not mind the AfD in the article's talk page. Freedom Wall (talk) 18:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Money Without Me (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Hello. I previously tried to nominate this article for deletion because the sources included were not absolutely verifiable. I failed because I didn't understand Wikipedia's many rules on deletion. Now that I actually understand the process, I'd like to try again. As said before, this article is very weak on verifiable sources. The only sources are hip-hop and music blogs jumping onto the track to generate content for their site. It's clear that the release wasn't intentional, as this was a track leaked years ago that was eventually taken down from his YouTube channel. This happens a lot for artists under UMG. For example, Kanye West has had his YouTube channel hacked multiple times, and each time hackers upload previously leaked songs to make them seem like new releases. The articles themselves are very short and a lot of them peddle rumors around a GNX Deluxe Edition, and the only source for the latter is Lefty Gunplay claiming that a deluxe version exists. He is the only person known to have said this and no one else to my knowledge has confirmed this. It's simply a leaked track that got an article because it was made in a hurry. I yield my time. Thank you for understanding. 35.20.154.84 (talk) 21:30, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm posting what I posted on the article's talk page, as I saw that first.
The existence of Wikipedia:UNRELEASED under Wikipedia:Notability (music) means that there is absolutely a scenario in which an unreleased or leaked track can have a Wikipedia page. Therefore, the points mentioned about the release being unintentional or possibly resulting from a hack are not relevant. I agree that not all leaks should have Wikipedia pages, but that's only because people generally don't write about them, and therefore they aren't inherently notable per guidelines. You don't see many articles about Kanye West leaks, for instance. That brings me to my next point.
The article meets Wikipedia:UNRELEASED. The deletion justification cherry-picks the article's weakest sources; however, there are still reliable sources from Pitchfork, FLOOD, and Hypebeast which are significant, non-trivial, and independent. They discuss both the song substantively unto itself while discussing the nature in which it was mysteriously released. A previous edit summary from this editor even acknowledges this. The editor now says that these sources are short, but there's no guideline that I know of which places any value on this, so I have no reason to acknowledge the point. Ultimately, even if you remove all of the low-quality sources, you would still get an article founded on decently qualifiable sources that meet notability. Therefore, the points mentioned on sourcing are good reasons to remove sources for quality assurance but not to delete the article as a whole; if the editor wants to remove those sources on these grounds, then they are free to do so.
At best, the deletion justification provided thus far is a good list of reasons on why this article isn't "good" in a very subjective sense, and I accept that; however, it isn't a good angle on notability, nor does it refer to any guidelines, making it less of a deletion justification and more so just one person's opinion on the article. I look forward to reading a more technical, policy-based deletion justification from any other editors who feel that the article shouldn't exist. If the article is convincingly proven to have fallen short of a Wikipedia guideline, then it should be deleted. Phibeatrice (talk) 23:13, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes WP:GNG and WP:UNRELEASED. Locust member (talk) 15:39, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Remains (Steve Lacy album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't meet WP:NALBUM - merge to Steve Lacy (saxophonist)? Orange sticker (talk) 16:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. I've added a review from Penguin and coverage in DownBeat. This, with AllMusic, is sufficient for WP:NALBUM #1. Online searches indicate that there are other reviews published in music magazines at the time it was released, but, as ever, these are difficult to access as they're from the pre-internet era. EddieHugh (talk) 16:12, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
3/3 (EP) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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After a quick BEFORE, I do not think this EP meets NALBUM. At present, the article is sourced solely via primary sources, and I haven't been able to find any secondary sources discussing the EP, the artist, or the record label. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 06:45, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sign Language (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bad WP:INCDAB, but renaming it to Sign Language (disambiguation) would leave a dab page with two entries that are barely list-mentioned on the target articles, i.e. they don't really seem to pass MOS:DABMENTION. Should this dab page even exist? – sgeureka tc 15:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Master Plan (Chris Brooks album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Self published album by artist I have also just submitted to AfD. Can't find any reviews or mentions of album nor artist. Orange sticker (talk) 17:18, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Piano Sketches (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not appear to meet WP:NALBUM. Draftification and BLAR were contested, hence why I'm here now. Proposing redirect to Birdy (singer), the singer for the album. Currently the only sources are to Apple Music and Discogs and there does not appear to be enough based on a WP:BEFORE search to meet album notability guidelines. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Camilasdandelions (talk) 16:00, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source 2 is probably the best. Rest are blogs or review sites. Source 2 is a student magazine from what I read, I'd still like to see better sources before changing my !vote. Oaktree b (talk) 00:22, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Second source – Based on the about us section of the first reference, that's a student blog, and would not contribute to notability.
  • Third – Wordpress blog of a student, no oversight or clarity of what makes them a subject matter expert of any kind
  • Fourth – It's unclear what would make this a valid source to contribute to notability. Their FAQ page provides no information and there's no about us page to view either
  • Fifth – The content at WP:RATEYOURMUSIC is user-generated and is considered a generally unreliable deprecated source which should not be used
  • Sixth – WP:ALLMUSIC sources do not contribute to notability, and there's not even any reviews at this source to make said argument with
Unfortunately, none of these sources contribute to establishing notability at all. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:20, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Country Demos (Bret Michaels album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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AFD in 2008 resulted in a WP:SNOW redirect. Article has now been recreated as a refbombed coatrack for Bret Michaels biography. The EP is still non-notable; none of the sources demonstrate significant reliable source coverage. Restore redirect to Bret Michaels discography#Extended plays. Jfire (talk) 23:34, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Maffian (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This particular extended play (EP) fails WP:NALBUM and is not notable. It did not chart on any country's official music chart and was not critically reviewed. The article's critical reception section is misleading to say the least. The OkayAfrica and P.M. News sources cited in the article are not reviews. I redirected the article to its parent article per criterion 6 of NALBUM, but User:MakeOverNow reverted my edit.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 18:35, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not surprised that you think that Maffian didn't meet WP:NALBUM, but the mistake was made by the editor who published this article that didn't provide enough notability. The EP charted on US & UK Apple Music Album chart at #57 & #82 and peaked at number 2 on Nigeria Apple Music Album Top 100 and number 3 at TurnTable Top 100 Albums. [8][9]. Remember Boy Spyce (EP), or Soundman Vol. 2 didn't provide any chart or review to meet WP:NALBUM. MakeOverNow (talk) 20:49, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apple Music Charts are considered WP:SINGLEVENDOR charts and cannot be used to establish notability. Although Turntable is a reliable chart, simply having an EP chart doesn't justify a separate article. The fact of the matter is that Maffian was not discussed in reliable sources or critically reviewed. I am not sure why you're comparing Maffian with those two other projects. For your info, both Soundman Vol.2 and Boy Spyce were critically reviewed. Show me multiple reliable sources that reviewed the EP and I will change my vote.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 22:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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En midsommarnattsdröm (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject fails GNG and NSONG for not having significant coverage of independent, reliable source to pass the guidelines requirements. Cassiopeia talk 01:24, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Seems like it charted at #1 for about ~1 week in Sweden, and remained in top #100 for a little while after that. I did find a short write-up of this song in particular in the Göteborgs-Posten, and it's also given a passing mention in a few tabloid articles about the musician in general. Does not seem to qualify for multiple, independent sources of sigcov. InsomniaOpossum (talk) 03:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "En Midsommarnattsdröm by Håkan Hellström - Music Charts". acharts.co. Retrieved 2025-01-22.
  2. ^ Lindqvist, Johan (2005-01-14). "Håkan Hellström | En midsommarnattsdröm". Göteborgs-Posten (in Swedish). Retrieved 2025-01-22.
  3. ^ Engman, Pascal (2016-06-03). "Håkan Hellströms fejd som ännu inte har läkt". www.expressen.se (in Swedish). Retrieved 2025-01-22.
  4. ^ "Nu anklagas Håkan Hellström för låtstöld - igen". www.aftonbladet.se (in Swedish). 2005-01-29. Retrieved 2025-01-22.

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The result was redirect‎ to Apollo 18 (album). Liz Read! Talk! 07:34, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Statue Got Me High (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Relisting after a failed bundled nom of TMBG songs. This article was created in 2006 and does not hold up to contemporary notability standards, failing WP:GNG and WP:NSONG. The only RSes cited in this article are on chart positions; the other sources are primary or user-generated. Secondary sources only mention the song briefly (e.g. PopMatters). Article should redirect to Apollo 18 (album). — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧(talk | contribs) 19:26, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to John Henry (album). Liz Read! Talk! 07:34, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Snail Shell (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Relisting after a failed bundled nom of TMBG songs. This song does not pass WP:GNG or WP:NSONG. The article cites only one RS, which only mentions the song briefly; the other sources are primary or user-generated. I can only find RSes that mention the song briefly, mostly in recaps of concerts. Article should redirect to John Henry (album). — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧(talk | contribs) 19:22, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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(She Was A) Hotel Detective (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Relisting after a failed bundled nom of TMBG songs. This article was created in 2004 and does not hold up to contemporary notability standards, failing WP:GNG and WP:NSONG. The article mostly cites primary sources such as interviews and does not cite any reliable secondary sources. The article is only briefly covered in RSes (e.g. Pitchfork and this tongue-in-cheek mention by A.V. Club) and does not have enough coverage for an article. This should redirect to They Might Be Giants (album). — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧(talk | contribs) 19:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Very strongly oppose: Article is fairly well sourced and I, for one, am tired of the "PRIMARY SOURCES IS BAD!!1!1!" attitude. I think it's common sense to say that the information contained in the sources themselves should dictate credibility, not whether they're primary or secondary. —theMainLogan (tc) 18:07, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    A hopeless stance. Who decides whether "the information contained in the sources themselves dictates credibility"? Geschichte (talk) 09:22, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Factory Showroom. Liz Read! Talk! 07:35, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

S-E-X-X-Y (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Relisting after a failed bundled nom of TMBG songs. This article was created in 2005 and does not hold up to contemporary notability standards, failing WP:GNG and WP:NSONG. The article is a very short stub that only cites two primary sources. RSes only mention the song briefly in recaps of concerts. This should redirect to Factory Showroom. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧(talk | contribs) 19:14, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Put Your Hand Inside the Puppet Head (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Relisting after a failed bundled nom of TMBG songs. The article mostly cites primary sources such as interviews which do not establish notability. The secondary sources cited here only discuss the song briefly, and I cannot find any RSes that discuss the song in-depth. The article is sourced okay, but it does not pass WP:GNG, so it should be merged into They Might Be Giants (album). — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧(talk | contribs) 19:11, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, but not just from nom's reasoning. The song simply fails WP:NSONG and bears no notability. Eelipe (talk) 08:15, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Man, It's So Loud in Here (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Relisting after a failed bundled nom of TMBG songs. This article was created in 2006 and does not hold up to contemporary notability standards, failing WP:GNG. The article is a very short stub that only cites two primary sources. The song did chart, and there are a few RSes that discuss the song (e.g. the ABC); however, none of them have enough coverage for a standalone article. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧(talk | contribs) 19:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to The Spine (album). Liz Read! Talk! 07:36, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting after a failed bundled nom of TMBG songs. This article was created in 2004 and does not hold up to contemporary notability standards, failing WP:GNG and WP:NSONG. This article is mostly cited to primary sources (including an interview), as well as a review of the album. I cannot find any reliable sources that discuss the song in depth. This article should be redirected to The Spine (album), and the adequately sourced content could be merged into that article. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧(talk | contribs) 18:52, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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