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1992 Summer Olympics medal table

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Nominator(s): Hey man im josh (talk) 21:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is my sixth Olympics medal table and I'm happy to be back at it again. I believe it's all encompassing, reflects the relevant information, and meets all of our criteria. As always, if there are any issues I'll be do my best to respond quickly and address all criticisms brought forth. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • "were included as official medal events for the first time ever" => "were included as official medal events for the first time"
  • "Also former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia" => "Two other former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia"
  • "Athletes representing 64 NOCs received at least one medal, with 37 of them winning" - 37 athletes?
  • "Meanwhile, Croatia,[21] Israel,[22] Malaysia,[23] Namibia,[24] Qatar,[25] and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals" - I think you can lose "meanwhile"
  • That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "were included as official medal events for the first time ever" -> "were included as official medal events for the first time" – Good catch, done.
  • "Also former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia" -> "Two other former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia" – Yes, definitely better, done.
  • "Athletes representing 64 NOCs received at least one medal, with 37 of them winning" - 37 athletes? – It's meant to represent that the NOCs received at least one gold medal. Well this is doing my brain in a bit... I've used this wording on several FLs now, but I can definitely see it both ways now. Agh, do you have any suggestions?
@ChrisTheDude: Done. I'll make the changes to my other FLs as well. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Meanwhile, Croatia,[21] Israel,[22] Malaysia,[23] Namibia,[24] Qatar,[25] and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals" - I think you can lose "meanwhile" – Done.
Thanks as always for the helpful review and tweaks ChrisTheDude!

Comments

  • Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, and Slovenia competed independently, as opposed to as a part of Yugoslavia, for the first time following the breakup of Yugoslavia. – based on the other dissolutions, breakups, and such, I don't see the need for "as opposed to as a part of Yugoslavia".
  • and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals. – why is this separate from the countries just listed?
  • said to have intentionally dropped or thrown his medal + but he threw it again. – did he throw it the first time or no?
  • There were some misplaced periods, but I fixed those on my own accord.

Other than that, good work! Kline • talk • contribs 21:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... based on the other dissolutions, breakups, and such, I don't see the need for "as opposed to as a part of Yugoslavia". – So this is where it got kind of complicated for me. You see, Slovenia (in 1912) and Croatia (in 1900) actually competed as part of the Austrian NOC before. There's a bit of a complicated history with teams competing with / as part of Yugoslavia, and I thought by including that I was adding clarity. To be honest I could go either way, so if you think the article is better served by its removal, then I can go ahead and do so. I would like to find a different place to link Yugoslavia at the Olympics though if that's removed, as I think the article does provide some interesting and useful context.
  • and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals. – why is this separate from the countries just listed? – I'm sorry, I don't think I understand. Is this to do with me listing nations and putting the reference for said nation immediately after the punctuation (comma)? I typically do to avoid ref groups, and to make it clear which reference is relevant to said country/text, instead of putting it all at the end. The ref for that is at the end of the sentence because there's no punctuation to put it after and we don't put references in the middle of a sentence, so this has been my practice and hasn't been an issue in the past.
  • said to have intentionally dropped or thrown his medal + but he threw it again. – did he throw it the first time or no? – I think there was ambiguity when I was first writing it out and reading about it, but I felt more confident as I read more and more, especially based on the IOC ruling and writings. I left this ambiguous when I shouldn't have, and I've removed the dropped part given the sources used pretty clearly state he threw it.
  • There were some misplaced periods, but I fixed those on my own accord. – I did actually revert one of those, but the first one was definitely a mistake. It's intentional, meant to note that the gold that Lithuania won was actually also the first medal of any kind. It's been something that's been noted in other lists as well, and I've received feedback to separate it out, while also not including it in the following sentence to distinguish it while also avoiding making the sentences more clunky.
Thanks for the review @Kline, I hope I've addressed your points. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Hey man im josh The Slovenia point was my fault as I read it with the comma, sorry about that. I'm not super concerned about the Yugoslavia thing now since you have explained and the rest have been addressed. Support. Kline • talk • contribs 18:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Image review and comment

  • File:Romas Ubartas by Augustas Didzgalvis.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Tie Break Tens Vienna 23.10.2016-51 (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Susi Susanti (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • Images have proper alt text, relevant to the article, and have suitable captions.
  • Bosnia-Herzegovina, why is it hyphenated rather than being "Bosnia and Herzegovina"?
Sorry about the delay in replying Arconning, I actually don't have a good explanation for the Bosnia and Herzegovina. I've made the fix. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just pinging as a follow up @Arconning. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:21, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support, just fell asleep my bad! Arconning (talk) 23:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

  • Everything is wikilinked
  • And from reliable sources
  • Ref-47 isn't archived, the rest are
  • Consistently and properly formatted
  • Spot-check on 14 refs(1, 4, 7, 10, 16, 17, 19, 23, 47, 32, 35, 38, 40, 18(medal table))
    • ref-17 says 1964, page says 1968
    • ref-40: nothing that says it was the only tie outside gymnastics, or that there were only 8 ties in gymnastics- which might be WP:OR (I'm not sure)

@Hey man im josh: just these 3 issues, so a support from my side once they are done, as it meets all 6 criteria. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:18, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the source review @DoctorWhoFan91!
  • Ref-47 isn't archived, the rest are – IABot didn't catch the archive, but I manually added it.
  • ref-17 says 1964, page says 1968 – Good catch, fixed.
  • ref-40: nothing that says it was the only tie outside gymnastics, or that there were only 8 ties in gymnastics- which might be WP:OR (I'm not sure) – Instead of making the claim that that was the only other tie, I changed the wording to In women's solo synchronized swimming there was also a two-way tie for first, which resulted in two gold medals and no silver medals being awarded. As for the 8 ties in gymnastics, I added this overview of the rhythmic gymnastics event, and this overview of the artistic gymnastics events, which reflect that there were "only" 8 ties (I say only because that's actually quite a bit for one sport :P).
I hope I've addressed everything to your satisfaction, but please let me know either way, and thanks again for the review @DoctorWhoFan91! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, everything has been addressed, and the two new refs are also properly formatted and archived. (Yeah, more events with ties than those without :D) DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 14:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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