Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joel Gilbert (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 23:02, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Joel Gilbert

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This page has already been deleted once. See here. I don't think anything substantial has occurred since then. Harizotoh9 (talk) 20:50, 22 December 2012 (UTC) (categories)[reply]

Comment I felt the article was vandalized the last time it was there.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vnisanian2001 (talk • contribs) 13:26, December 22, 2012‎
~~Delete~~ Weak Keep - I see only mentions, falling well short of GNG criteria. Yakushima (talk) 14:34, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:37, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral for now. A quick look finds that Joel has produced and directed a number of documentaries.[1] If his works have received the requisite coverage, then he would be notable enough under WP:CREATIVE even if failing WP:GNG. . Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:39, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Much as it galls me to admit it, the criterion of "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" in Clause 3 of WP:CREATIVE appears to apply to this subject. The claim made by some here of WP:GNG doesn't seem to stand up, however. Yakushima (talk) 05:19, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per meeting WP:FILMMAKER and his works meeting WP:GNG. Just began work on expanding and sourcing the article. Yes, it was unsourced when firs brought to AFD, but that issue is proving addressable as his films about the life and works of Bob Dylan and Paul McCartney and even Barack Obama have received the requisite media attention... some positive... some negative. If it is thought his recent notoriety as a political filmmaker makes this newer version a target for vandalism, we have methods to deal with such that do not require deletion of arguably notable topics. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:20, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per massive sourcing by MQS. This now passes WP:GNG, WP:CREATIVE, WP:BIO, WP:N and WP:V. Good job! Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 05:37, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Schmidt. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 06:12, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Post-nomination update: What was sent to AFD as a 1084 characters (183 words) unsourced stub[2] is now a 5832 characters (956 words) start or C class article.[3] So far... a 5x expansion. Merry Christmas Wikipedia~ Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 20:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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